EP46: Pebble Beach 2025: Laguna Seca and the Big Show

In this episode, Jon Summers is rejoined by his son Ollie to co-host and share their experiences of the Pebble Beach 2025 event. They discuss their time at the Monterey Historics at Laguna Seca, camping adventures, and the main Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance event. Highlights include favorite car categories, memorable encounters at the campsite, and insightful observations about the evolution of the event. They also touch upon the less traditional aspects of the show, such as encountering supercars and unique vehicles like a bedazzled Aston Martin Valkyrie. The episode concludes with reflections on how the event has changed over the years.

Notes

Jon Summers is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.

Image – ex-Shelby Ferrari 410

Music By: the23kid@gmail.com

Monterey Historics, Laguna Seca

Joy Tutus (it seems I mispronounced it)
Camping on the outside of the Rainey Curve
Eleven year olds “Practicing drifting”
Eleven year olds exploring the paddock
O sits in a Ford Mk4
Spinning Group C cars
Spectating at Turn 6

The Big Show

Parking up nice and early near the Inn at Spanish Bay
3 shows: Casa Ferrari, the Concept Car Lawn, plus the actual concours
Highlights from Casa Ferrari
499P
3 GTOs
330LMB
3 TdFs, so you can compare door handles, headlight cover, hood scoop, fender louvres, tail light design
A Glickenhaus in the metal
Concept Car lawn:
“That Matra Thingy”
“Orange Mercedes with six tail lights”
Rexy 911
Steve Beck on Barnfind Hunter
The Cobra class
“Narrow hip” Cobras
Big Block vs. Small Block Cobras
Moretti – “I could drive that”
Invicta
Fox Mustangs at Pebble Beach
A Useful Analogy
The Tulip Wood Hispano-Suiza – the winning car
Jim Farley’s Cobra
Graham Hill’s BRM P261, as seen in Frankenheimer’s “Grand Prix”
Guessing Best In Show: “That blue Lancia”, the “Autobahnkurier”
Monterey week evolving – more supercars than classic cars
People go for one event only, for example they camp at Laguna
Bedazzled Valkyrie
Koenigsegg Rugera and 277mph

Transcript

Crew Chief Brad: [00:00:00] John Summers is the motoring historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider hailing from California. He collects cars and bikes built with plenty of cheap and fast and not much reliable. On his show, he gets together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars driving motorbikes, motor racing, and motoring travel.

Jon Summers: Good day. Good morning, good afternoon. It is John Summers, the motoring historian, part two of Pebble Beach 2025, as reviewed by me and the boy today looking at, uh, the time that we spent at the Monterey Historics. At Laguna Seka and the big show itself, that Pebble Beach, Concord de la go. We didn’t really do the auctions as thoroughly as we might have done this year, did we?

Because the next [00:01:00] day we went to Laguna Acre and camped.

Ollie: I mean, I love the G of Seka. All the categories. Their categories are like all my favorites. Like there’s a group C category. I love Group C Cars. My favorite car ever behind the Licken house, oh oh seven LMH car is the Porsche 9 6 2 in Texaco.

Liveries. There was one there. I You didn’t know. I didn’t see

Jon Summers: that car.

Ollie: Oh, there was a Texaco 9 6 2 there.

Jon Summers: So, just to be clear, we went out on the Friday, didn’t we? We did the auctions on the Thursday. There was, there was a

Ollie: Formula One class that was on the,

Jon Summers: on the Friday we licked our wounds at the ridge Mark.

Then we came back on the Friday. I got up, that was the day where I got up at the cracker of Scro. You have a sleep in? And I went shopping, didn’t I? I was back with the shopping before like eight o’clock in the morning.

Ollie: Bacon with

Jon Summers: my Wagyu beef burgers that never break. Never got eaten. Yeah.

Ollie: We’re gonna have.

For dinner tonight,

Jon Summers: we’re gonna eat. We’re and they’re gonna be much better cooked up by your mother than cooked up by, [00:02:00] uh, cooked up on that Terrible cooked up by Jack. No, I’m not knocking Jack. I’m not knocking. Jack. Jack made our dinner, so I’m not knocking he for that. He,

Ollie: yeah, he did. Jason did.

Jon Summers: The burgers that we ate were Jack.

Oh, the sausages with Jason. I

Ollie: have a funny story about, but, but listen,

Jon Summers: but listen. Right, so we went out to the track, the campsite, we camped, didn’t we? With Jack,

Ollie: with the, with the Joy Titus. In the bed that now the Joy Titus is a custom air mattress.

Jon Summers: I’m gonna add it then made

Ollie: for the 2016 Toyota Tundra.

This is not sponsored. This is not sponsored. You can get the Joy Titus at a price of

Jon Summers: it was 79 bucks.

Ollie: Anyway, 79

Jon Summers: bucks. And to be honest, commend it. Don’t for a comfortable night’s sleep.

Ollie: I don’t recommend it.

Jon Summers: You don’t? I

Ollie: don’t recommend

Jon Summers: it. If it hadn’t rained, we’d have been all right.

Ollie: I don’t recommend the joy if we hadn’t have been

Jon Summers: right on top of the hill where it was really windy, where I couldn’t even get the canvas in the bed.

Ollie: Right. There were six men there. There was Jack and his son. [00:03:00] And then there’s another friend of my dad’s who’s has a son. And then there is a man wearing a man wore shirt in this room who also has his son because

Jon Summers: we were on the outside of the raining curves. That’s why Jack, there wasn’t it?

Ollie: There were, there was my dad and two of my dad’s friends, they all had sons.

We were all about the same age. And anyway, the point is we all brought bikes. The place where we were like camping, it was like loose gravel basically. And everybody’s out there like sitting in their camping chairs. You know there is one man, Jean shorts, jorts. Plaid, is that

Jon Summers: what they call it now? Short.

Ollie: Sleep. Yeah. Jorts and Lucas loves them, dude. Um,

Jon Summers: well seriously, or in an ironic way?

Ollie: Kind of both. He only likes them ’cause his dad. ’cause Eric hates them

Crew Chief Brad: a

Ollie: good, he’s like, he, you were in the store and he was like, my dad would love those. And he points out like some army [00:04:00] camo shorts. Anyway. Anyway, so there was a man in a Ferrari hat in a plaid shirt with jorts on short sleeve shirt.

Anyway, like loose surface is really going to drift on, on your pedal Bikes we’re drifting around and I, on my bike came up and I drifted not in front of the guy, but like in proximity.

Jon Summers: How far away to the

Ollie: Ferrari house, how far away

Jon Summers: would you say you were from him?

Ollie: Seven feet. Six feet, probably six feet, and he was like.

Yo, fuck off man. You’re kicking up a bunch of dust. And I was like, okay. So I went over and I told my friend, Alessandro, he, he’s a little bit of a troublemaker. As soon as I told him that story and what he said, Alessandro’s like, I’m gonna go and piss him off. That’s exactly what he said. I’m gonna go and piss him off.

So me and Luca were watching him ride off and he drifted, you want me to name the feet [00:05:00] we need to go into, we need to go into inches for this one. He drifted like eight inches away from his, away from him, and the dude in the Ferrari hat went, he, he grabbed his leg and went, man, a little rock, kidney. And these rocks are like the signs of pebbles.

He was like, ow, man. This pebble just hit me.

Anyway, that was just the story of Mr. Ferrari hat.

Jon Summers: Well, thank you for, for the, for the inappropriate Anglosaxon story. Um, and you might well think if my mother’s listening, she would think, well, not only. Where you were? Where were you, Jonathan? And I would say that I was nearby. I was only a short distance away when this was taking place.

But you

Ollie: only heard until the following day?

Jon Summers: Well, because I said to you that night when we went to bed, I was like, ’cause you boys were riding around all the time. I was like, you must have had some adventures. Not [00:06:00] all. Did anything happen? And you were like, no, no. There were no incidents. There were no incident.

And then in the morning, then in the morning when we were having coffee, you were like, oh, that bloke over there. He told me to off. And the thing with it is those people on that side of the campsite, right? If you were camping over there, you couldn’t see the track. Like why would you camp over there like where we were?

You could see down onto the track, right? No, but the reason we, where they were

Ollie: recently, we took the Ferrari, that

Jon Summers: was it. The bloke with, was it the bloke with that escort mark? What? The bloke was near that escort mark one. I

Ollie: don’t know what you’re talking about.

Jon Summers: There was a car that was covered in a tar over there.

It was like an escort mark, one that had kind of two big wheels on it. It was bluish.

Ollie: We kind of took the Ferrari hatted guy for granted because

Jon Summers: at his word and did

Ollie: well, I just wanna point out that if he would’ve said, Hey, can you not drift in front of me? And this all would’ve played out differently. He wouldn’t have swear, or maybe it would’ve ’cause he’s annoying,

Jon Summers: but, well, he swore at you.

If he hadn’t have sworn at you, it, it wouldn’t have stro

Ollie: wouldn’t have wanted that [00:07:00] reaction.

Jon Summers: Mm-hmm. What else was memorable about the, uh, about the camping? Walking.

Ollie: Walking in the paddock that was very memorable. Walking around in the paddock with my friends, that was fun.

Jon Summers: What was cool about that? I was, because we’re

Ollie: kids.

Jon Summers: Mm-hmm.

Ollie: There’s kind of like a free pass to sitting in cars.

Jon Summers: Did you sit in a lot of cars then? Yeah. Or did you sit

Ollie: in Well, we sat in a bunch of mustangs. ’cause like Ford was there. We sat in the new Mark four. I should have said that when we were still talking about it. No

Jon Summers: way. I didn’t know that.

Ollie: Yeah, we did.

Jon Summers: Wow. Dude, that was Spro. We saw,

Ollie: we sat in a gold one.

Jon Summers: It was, I should say, I was

Ollie: the lights,

Jon Summers: I was tired by the time we got to, once we got to the camp, I was like few. I just like sat in the camp chair. You can see the CO from the spot where at we could see, could see porch, the cos group and you can see ’em going right round the rainy curve.

Ollie: Oh wow. During the Group C group I was watching, of course, ’cause it was my favorite group. [00:08:00] And whatever the Groupness Nissans called came down the corkscrew and spam. He is a car length off or he’s a car width. Off of the apex or no off of the exit? Mm-hmm. Where you’re going to be on the exit. A Mazda 7 87 B comes down, spins, does like a J turn look and move sneaks past the Nissan.

Nissan. Then a pink 9 6 2 comes up. And spins, barely avoiding the NI Nissan. The NI Nissan has moved by then there’s yellow flags out just after this. The TransAm group and the Group C Group went at the same time ’cause they were both small groups. A black TransAm car wasn’t close enough to see what it was.

Came down and. And then they closed it. Apparently the Nissan, Nissan had came in the power too. Early span dropped oil and that’s why the 7 8 7 B span the 9 6 2 span [00:09:00] and the Trans Am car span. So there was an oil spill. The kitty litter truck came out, poured down some stuff,

Jon Summers: work

Ollie: back to racing.

Jon Summers: You boys went down to um, turn six as well.

Ollie: Yeah, that is, Jack was

Jon Summers: saying he reckons that’s the best place for Jack was not

Ollie: lying when he said that was a really good place to. Set up why we went down there for this historic Formula one class and it’s just, you’re so close. Mm-hmm. To the cars, you feel like you could like reach out and touch them.

The spot where you’re watching, you can also camp there. If you’re like 10 camping, you can camp there. Mm-hmm. So there was a bunch of people come out their tents on the

Jon Summers: inside of turn six or the outside.

Ollie: Outside.

Jon Summers: On the outside,

Ollie: that’s the good place. ’cause then they’re taking the racing line. So they’re on the outside of the track.

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah.

Ollie: So then you’re even closer to them. Where we were standing, there was just like a big drop off. And then the track there was just like, for me, and I’m short, I’m like four, eight. It’s like neck height. Mm-hmm. Uh, of a fence. So if you really wanted to, you [00:10:00] could climb down and just go down there. But we didn’t do that.

The historical one class, it was a very good spot for that class. You can see them like as they’re like pounding the brake, you can see their body like shifted over to one side as they’re trying to like downshift while they’re like one handed, like turning in. It’s just, it’s a cool spot.

Jon Summers: I’m disappointed.

I was too lazy to get down there. I think I was building the campsite. I was building the Joy Titus.

Ollie: Well, let’s take a minute to talk about the night really quick. Oh. I mean, it rained. The night was a, was a adventure.

Jon Summers: Yeah. ’cause when the sun goes, so they stopped racing about five 30 and it seemed like by six 30 the sun was down.

We’d add like our burgers. By that time we’d made friends with the people at the campsite next. Yeah, yeah. These

Ollie: people, these people were cooking a pig and they’d be cooking it all day and we were meant to go down there, but we didn’t end up going down to eat their pig sandwiches.

Jon Summers: Well, that was because the blokes next to us, they were a bunch of engineers and one of them his [00:11:00] hobby.

Was making distilled liquors. He made one especially called the Cork Screwed.

Ollie: That’s cool. That’s actually a good name. Yeah.

Jon Summers: The uh, but the, it was all like absent kind of flavors. He assured us they weren’t poisonous. So, anything else about the overnight experience? Well, it rained, didn’t it? So I could have bought a tent.

Terrible Joy. Titus Terrible is just this inflatable mattress. I did buy Canvas to go over it, but, but it was so

Ollie: windy you couldn’t get the Canvas card. I couldn’t put that down.

Jon Summers: But I also bought bivy bags, which happened to be emergency single use thing. So we had the sleeping bags inside the bivy bag, didn’t we?

No.

Ollie: No. Yeah,

Jon Summers: yeah,

Ollie: yeah, yeah. And we went to sleep and I woke up and it was raining and I was cold, and I realized I was cold because I was wearing a sweatshirt and jeans, sweatpants or whatever, pajama pants. I put my arm out of the sleeping bag. I don’t know why I put it onto what I thought was the joyus, but actually there was a small gap between the [00:12:00] Joyus and the bed wall and that had filled with water, and I just dumped my arm into that pool of water.

My arm was like freezing like crazy. I was like trying to pull up my bivy bag, but it was all wet. It was like soaked, so it didn’t really help you. And then like, oh shoot, now my hand’s all cold. And it’s like, oh no, I just touched a cold part of like a wet part of my sleeping bag. Shoot my other arm’s freezing now.

Jon Summers: Yeah, it, it was, uh, it was an

Ollie: adventure.

Jon Summers: Not the best planning by me

Ollie: because when I woke up the second time, I really had to pee, but I was like so afraid to get outta my bag ’cause it was so wet and I left my shoes in the bed in between me and my dad. So I could like grab them if I had to go to the bathroom.

But then I realized like, oh shoot, they’re all soaked.

Jon Summers: Mm-hmm.

Ollie: I had to hold it till the morning.

Jon Summers: Yeah. There was no way you, like, you

Ollie: couldn’t move at all, like roll [00:13:00] over at all. ’cause like you’re worried you’ll roll over into patch of wetness. Yeah. Well you would. You would, you would. Because uh, when we got up and we took our sleeping bags off, we had noticed that the Joy Titus had changed color.

Yeah. So the water there was just like. Two imprints of dryness where our bodies had been. And then everything else, like in between us and all around us was just like this darker joy, tus color.

Jon Summers: Alessandra had some kind of flight or something to do from Hong Kong. Yeah, he was, he was gonna

Ollie: fly a plane or something, he said.

I dunno.

Jon Summers: So, uh, they left he Jason and left really early, didn’t they? And then, um. Jack and Luca hang on a little bit. And then they went, and then by about lunchtime, we were the only people. Yeah. On there. We were the only people on the campsite. So we

Ollie: trotted down to, um, the paddock area, got some chicken tenders.

Jon Summers: Well, you had some food. I was over it. By the time I couldn’t eat anything by that time, slept properly. And we were, we were

Ollie: [00:14:00] so tired and like fatigued, we were just like, oh, screw this. And we buggered back to the ridge mark.

Jon Summers: Yeah, we, uh, beat a hasty retreat back to the Ridge Mark

Ollie: Resort and Spa. Slept, showered, watch tv,

Jon Summers: recovered ourselves.

And then what about the big show itself, Ollie, the first time

Ollie: biggest

Jon Summers: you ever went to the Pebble Beach Concord. So

Ollie: every year since I was like seven. I had gone to all the things we had just talked about. Instead of going back to the ridge mark, my dad would’ve took me home and then he would’ve driven back.

’cause he was a docent. He would work on the day and he couldn’t deal with me. But this year, the docent program had been canceled because three buses had got stuck. Explain that. And then,

Jon Summers: well, that’s rather political. Actually, but the docent program has been downsized, hasn’t they? And we think it’s partly because last year a lot of certain kind of ticket holder [00:15:00] had got stuck and had missed their tours.

So people had felt like there were lots of extra docents and therefore, yeah, uh, fewer docent tours were required this year. So meaning that I could do this, do show with you. Definitely a silver lining in the cloud there.

Ollie: Yeah.

Jon Summers: So firstly it was nice to not have to get up at three o’clock to be able to, and you know, in order to be there at like five 30 kind of thing.

It was nice to be able to get up at like, we drove

Ollie: right in, no traffic at, yeah, that’s a big thing. Parked

Jon Summers: on, uh, yeah, drove right in without any like stoppy start and it, we went in on the highway 68. You know, highway one, highway 68 entrance. We went in that way and just drove straight in, no Stoppy Starty parked.

They had us park up at the side of the road just round the corner from the Inn, Spanish Bay. We were on a bus straight away, straight into the show, dumps you out at the top of Peter Hay Hill, so you have to like walk down Peter Hay Hill. So there is quite a walk. But I realized that as we were getting there, you know, I was [00:16:00] saying to Ali that there are really three shows.

There’s the actual concor. Then there’s the concept car lawn. There’s ca and then, then there’s Casa Ferrari, because really Casa Ferrari’s like up the hill from the main show, but there’ll be like 50, 60, maybe even as many as 80.

Ollie: There’s, so there’s a Ferrari out there. There’s, there’s a variety. There was a Ferrari 4 9, 9 P was there, Michael Schumacher’s Formula One car was there, as we said earlier.

But then there’s also like GTOs.

Jon Summers: Yeah, there were three GTOs weren’t there, that three 30 L and b that I love the three Tour de France together. So you could compare door handles and the color of the Loures and light

Ollie: covers and yeah.

Jon Summers: And so that was really cool. You spent a while explaining the difference to me between the four A eight gt

Ollie: I I, I said before, I love Group three cars.

And there at Casa Ferrari there was four iterations of Ferrari Group three [00:17:00] cars and I gave my dad a crash course on that.

Jon Summers: Yeah, there was a Ferrari four 10. That was probably my favorite car of the whole event. I loved the 3 7 5 plus that they had at rm, but I loved even more that X shall B four 10. They they, that was on, that was Upper Cara Ferrari.

Ollie: They also had Louis Hamilton’s Ferrari Formula one car. I don’t know how they did, ’cause like he’s meant to like use it, but it was number 44, so it was definitely his. So that, that was cool.

Jon Summers: So the entrance of the show, there was the long look for Glick at house.

Ollie: Oh yeah. There was a, well it wasn’t, it wasn’t an LMH car, which was sad, but it was oh oh three or three oh oh.

SC. G Scooter. Or Carmen. Or Carmen, I can’t pronounce it. Licken house. It was a stick. So no paddles, which my dad was surprised by. Honestly. I was too. ’cause it’s, you could be seen or it is a super car brand. Little [00:18:00] surprising.

Jon Summers: What’d you like on the concept Car?

Ollie: Well, it’s hard to describe concept cars.

Jon Summers: Yeah.

What did you like? That’s why I said there was that Mercedes that are quite like Was the what?

Ollie: There was like that natural looking thing like, oh yeah.

Jon Summers: Yeah.

Ollie: It’s hard for the viewers to know what’s on the concept car. Along there

Jon Summers: was a, if you can name a car, I can put a link in and they can find it, but I can, well, that was

Ollie: that orange Mercedes.

Something. Yeah, it was a tribute. Had six real tail lights, which I thought was cool. Two group three Porsches, one of which had like a tiger motif on it and two of the teeth were gold, which was cool.

Jon Summers: Oh yeah, yeah. Rexy. Yeah,

Ollie: Rexy.

Jon Summers: Yeah. Alright.

Ollie: Onto the lawn.

Jon Summers: Onto the lawn itself. Big show itself. Ollie, how was that for you?

Ollie: First time it was great. I will forever go on the lawn when I can if I can. Much bigger than I expected. So many more cars than what went on tour. There were at least like a hundred more cars that went [00:19:00] on that went on the tour. But ’cause my dad has insider connections, as you could say, we got some influence on who was best in class from some of the judges that my dad is friends with.

Jon Summers: Yeah. Well, we Ted around, didn’t we? Well, I know one of the guys that judges preservation class, so we chatted with him a little bit, didn’t we? Yeah. Um, about what he, uh, what he looked like. I also know somebody who prepared one of the cars that was in the COBRA class, so we talked a little bit about that.

Yeah, I had a

Ollie: good chat with him. He was impressed by my knowledge. Which felt good.

Jon Summers: Good. He’s an episode. He, he

Ollie: owns three Cobras.

Jon Summers: You know that Tom Cota show Bonfire Hunter?

Ollie: Yeah.

Jon Summers: There’s an episode where he is on that show where Steve’s on that show. That’s cool. Doesn’t own those cars. He looks after the for people.

Ollie: Um, well, yeah. Another feature Mark, other than 75 years of. Formula one was, um, cobra. So they had the best examples of every iteration of Cobra. So they had the closed top [00:20:00] ones, they had the narrow hip ones, which those are the ones where the fender goes over the rear wheel, which I don’t like. They had the classic open, top, regular hip, or straight, not over the wheel.

And, uh, they had some, a race open top ones. They had like at least two of the best examples of every iteration. I was kind of surprised they didn’t have Carol Shelby’s actual car. ’cause you’re at Pebble Beach. I don’t know. It’s probably destroyed or something. Well,

Jon Summers: it was also big block cars only. It was four 20 sevens only.

Ollie: Yeah. But why would Shelby have a small block?

Jon Summers: Well, because he originally had a small block and the small block cars were always meant to be much more streetable than the big block cars. True. But yeah, I and

Ollie: Shelby must be handy.

Jon Summers: I take your point that you might have expected to be a car where the Shelby connection, there was a class of moretti’s, wasn’t that?

Which is

Ollie: tiny, tiny cars.

Jon Summers: Like little. I feel like if

Ollie: I feel like that could be my, I could drive that if I had to pick a car to drive right [00:21:00] now. I could drive that.

Jon Summers: The class of Invictus

Ollie: that was the best in one of the Invictus was best in class.

Jon Summers: Well, our best in in show. No, no. Yeah, it was that

Ollie: brownie.

Jon Summers: The best in show was the Hispano Swer tulip. Oh, I get these

Ollie: things mixed up.

Jon Summers: I should tell you a little story about that. I knew that car. But when I saw it on the field, I was like, oh, it’s a tulip wood, but it is not as handsome as the one that was in the Blackhawk. Well, this is the same car, but it’s been redone and in my opinion, it’s been redone to be less elegant.

The problem is what the problem is. It’s been really done well. It’s probably stock. It’s

Ollie: probably stock. And that’s why it’s one.

Jon Summers: Yes.

Ollie: Because if the more, I mean that’s what, that’s the little bit of the confusing part of Pebble Beach. ’cause it’s like. Elegance, I’ll take off the pony wheels and put on the American racing ones, and then it’s like stalk.

I take off the American wheels and put it [00:22:00] back on the ponies.

Jon Summers: Yeah. The thought of a Fox Mustang appearing on the Concor audit Pebble is, is, well, that’s just, that’s just not, that’s

Ollie: the first. That, but that, no, but

Jon Summers: no, but that’s example, that’s a really great way of, of thinking about it. Ollie. Um,

Ollie: just back to the cobras, the close top is called the lm and Jim Farley was at Laguna.

He’s the CEO of Ford. If he didn’t know he was at Laguna, he has a LM edition Cobra. So close top. He won his race

Jon Summers: pretty Hadley. He just drove off at the front, didn’t he?

Ollie: And he, he owned, did he own a BRM? He owned that BRM that was on the lawn.

Jon Summers: Oh, really? The Graham Hill one,

Ollie: if you’ve seen the movie Grand Prix.

What? What’s, yeah, well name. That was my

Jon Summers: favorite car in the,

Ollie: oh, there’s era, so sixties Era Bureau. Yeah.

Jon Summers: And it’s the car that’s driven by hot staar. Character, character, character. I get the, I’ll get the pronunciation right in the end. Yeah. That tulip wood car, Ollie. It was built for the Targa Florio 1924 Targa Florio.

We [00:23:00] had it in the Blackhawk Museum and then I have a book about the history of the type of Flo and I was looking through it and I was like, it’s a one of one. It looked nothing like it looked like in the museum. The car, it’s one of one gold wheels and these ridiculous flairy arches put on it. That looks elegant.

It’s

Ollie: American wheels,

Jon Summers: dude. Exactly. They, it was more elegant with the American racing Wheels. What has happened to it since it’s left? The Blackhawk is RM have put black wheels on it. They’ve taken the chuff mud flaps off it. Mudguards off it and now it’s come to Pebble in Won.

Ollie: Yeah.

Jon Summers: So I was a buffoon to miss that it was potentially gonna win.

There was that blue lancer that I thought was a potential winner. Yeah. We,

Ollie: we usually make predictions on like, who might be the best in show?

Jon Summers: Do that Ollie. I wouldn’t, Ollie, I always get it. I, I know. I always miss it. I miss it. Look, you

Ollie: got it right.

Jon Summers: I literally just, you got it right

Ollie: a couple years ago in that black Mercedes, whatever.

Jon Summers: Oh, the auto barn courier.

Ollie: Yeah. [00:24:00] When that one couple years ago on that one you said, oh, that could be best in show. Like we arrived late to the tour that year and you saw it driving by and you were like, that could win.

Jon Summers: Yeah, we followed it on the roads around Pebble, didn’t we? Yeah.

Ollie: This was a couple years ago.

Jon Summers: Yeah. We’ll, we’ll do a link to that car. It was a lovely car. Is there anything else we need to cover about the week? I, I just wanna say this

Ollie: little, this little fact here. Pebble Beach used to be a kind of elegant whatever. The point is that it used to be one thing and now it’s turned into this thing where it’s like bring your McLaren six 50 s, bring your Ferrari SF 90 and it’s become less of a bring your Porsche Boxster and you see more super cars.

Then you do classic cars. I mean, I know I’ve only been going for however many years, and my dad’s been going for, for like four years, and my dad’s been going for like the last

Jon Summers: probably 20 years now, 20. Gosh,

Ollie: I think he can, I think he can back me on this, that there’s less classic cars parked up and there’s more super cars parked up.

I don’t know how, I think that’s [00:25:00] a, that is an interesting

Jon Summers: way of expressing how, how it’s changed, I suppose. This is one thing that I’ve talked about in other post Pebble pods that I’ve done, where I’ve talked about how I feel like now there are many, many people who come to Pebble and who don’t go to any of the same events that I do.

Or that we do, they don’t go to the star of the tour. They

Ollie: don’t go to, they don’t go to the main event. They definitely don’t go to same. And they don’t go to any

Jon Summers: of the auctions. They don’t do any of the, most of the people

Ollie: at the track, the Ferrari hat. He was at the track for qualifying practice race one and race two.

He was there for all four days. He was there for the Monterey Historics at Laguna Se and WeatherTech race wide. He wasn’t there for Pebble Beach. Concourse de

Jon Summers: Yeah. And link to that. And we’re gonna end on this note, Ollie, I cannot believe. We didn’t mention the bedazzled Aston Martin Valkyrie that we stuff on the park.

Ollie: yeah. So we went out to dinner to the Rio Grill. I stuffed my face with ribs and as we came out into the parking lot to hop into our $26,000 [00:26:00] Toyota Tundra,

Jon Summers: $20,000 Toyota Tundra.

Ollie: We Konig Seg Rera, or I don’t, I don’t know. These supercar, there were three Konig Segs. Current.

Jon Summers: Just parked up, just parked like in Car Valley, just parked up in

Ollie: front of, in front of a Starbucks, in

Jon Summers: front of a Safeway in Car Valley.

Ollie: Next to that, there was a Aston Martin Valkyrie, which had, you must know those like sticker jewels. Cupboard in those.

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah,

Ollie: I, I overheard the lady who had done it was just like parked up next to these outside of Starbucks. Um,

Jon Summers: so some whipper snapper,

Ollie: some lady, some lady

Jon Summers: teenage photographer guy was telling me that the guy that owned the Valkyrie is an influencer.

Ollie: Yeah. Everybody’s like recording, like I’m standing next here to about $6 million worth of coning eggs and this bedazzled Valery and it’s just like, shut up.

Jon Summers: But it was quite cool Sam witnessing that. It was cool. And I

Ollie: overheard this lady talking about, and she was like, this is my third car. I’m [00:27:00] like, that she bedazzled the third car you’ve ruined it, added 15 pounds to the car.

I heard.

Jon Summers: So, um, I was chatting to that teenage photographer Instagram type, um, and he was, uh, he was telling me that that Burgundy Kerig s

Ollie: that was the rera, the R two were left. Yeah, apparently he reckons

Jon Summers: that was the actual car. That set the production car record at 277 miles an hour.

Ollie: No. He, all he knows is, was the one a burgundy rera Did that.

Jon Summers: All right.

Ollie: That’s all he knows.

Jon Summers: Well, about how many burgundy RAs are there?

Ollie: Well, every rera that’s sold is either in like gray, like that carbon fibery look or burgundy.

Jon Summers: Oh, but burgundy’s a common color for regret for kerig. Seg Re, is it?

Ollie: Yeah.

Jon Summers: Good Lord. On that note, thank you for your time and thoughts, Ollie.

Ollie: Yeah, thank you for bringing me on here.

Jon Summers: Thank you. Drive through.[00:28:00]

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