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Best of the Bay (Part 3): Three Genesisisises. They’re Good.
In this episode, Jon reviews three Genesis vehicles during a road test in Santa Cruz. Exploring the Genesis GV80 Coupe, GV80, and G80 sedan, he compares them to other luxury brands like Bentley and Lexus. He discusses his initial skepticism about SUV coupes, his experiences with the vehicles' infotainment systems, and the pros and cons of their design and performance. He finds the GV80 Coupe particularly impressive for its luxury feel and lessens the sting of its high price point. Jon also mentions how the Genesis brand is evolving its own design language, distinct from other luxury brands. The episode ends with a nod to his favorite, the G80 sedan.
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• Judas Priest - Riding On the Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
• A digression on speed dating
• Genesis GV80 Coupe - The Car Least Likely To Make You Regret Your Car Payment, “a driver focused design”, mesh design theme J loves
• Lexus vs. Toyota, leather heated seats worth the extra $
• No creep in the transmission
• Hyundai Equus (https://jonsummers.net/2019/05/2014-hyundai-equus/) Kia K900 (https://jonsummers.net/2017/04/archives-2015-kia-k900/)
• New cars having different methods of starting / putting in gear. Unlike the cars we grew up with. Usually buttons “30 secs on the microwave, please”
• Testament - Electric Crown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
• Genesis GV80 - “the Range Rovery one”. 17mpg instead of 13mpg for the GV80 Coupe
• Genesis G80 sedan. J’s favourite. The blobby wheels (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GYRxZ7BajObvG05glIPknmNWkT2ot8a3/view?usp=sharing) . Red leather interior. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GdTZCTPe0jhdiAlKK8JZDc2UtLlZ7CtS/view?usp=sharing) Terrific at high speed. Compares favourably with J’s old AMG Benz (https://jonsummers.net/tag/mercedes-amg/) , a RWDV8 vs this, a AWD turbo V6. Old fashioned big fast sedan, it is a one size fits all, track day or airport limo.
• Genesis Sport vs. Sport+ settings
• Judas Priest - Riding On The Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
In this episode, Jon reviews three Genesis vehicles during a road test in Santa Cruz. Exploring the Genesis GV80 Coupe, GV80, and G80 sedan, he compares them to other luxury brands like Bentley and Lexus. He discusses his initial skepticism about SUV coupes, his experiences with the vehicles' infotainment systems, and the pros and cons of their design and performance. He finds the GV80 Coupe particularly impressive for its luxury feel and lessens the sting of its high price point. Jon also mentions how the Genesis brand is evolving its own design language, distinct from other luxury brands. The episode ends with a nod to his favorite, the G80 sedan.
====================
• Judas Priest - Riding On the Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
• A digression on speed dating
• Genesis GV80 Coupe - The Car Least Likely To Make You Regret Your Car Payment, “a driver focused design”, mesh design theme J loves
• Lexus vs. Toyota, leather heated seats worth the extra $
• No creep in the transmission
• Hyundai Equus (https://jonsummers.net/2019/05/2014-hyundai-equus/) Kia K900 (https://jonsummers.net/2017/04/archives-2015-kia-k900/)
• New cars having different methods of starting / putting in gear. Unlike the cars we grew up with. Usually buttons “30 secs on the microwave, please”
• Testament - Electric Crown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
• Genesis GV80 - “the Range Rovery one”. 17mpg instead of 13mpg for the GV80 Coupe
• Genesis G80 sedan. J’s favourite. The blobby wheels (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GYRxZ7BajObvG05glIPknmNWkT2ot8a3/view?usp=sharing) . Red leather interior. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GdTZCTPe0jhdiAlKK8JZDc2UtLlZ7CtS/view?usp=sharing) Terrific at high speed. Compares favourably with J’s old AMG Benz (https://jonsummers.net/tag/mercedes-amg/) , a RWDV8 vs this, a AWD turbo V6. Old fashioned big fast sedan, it is a one size fits all, track day or airport limo.
• Genesis Sport vs. Sport+ settings
• Judas Priest - Riding On The Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
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In this episode, Jon reviews three Genesis vehicles during a road test in Santa Cruz. Exploring the Genesis GV80 Coupe, GV80, and G80 sedan, he compares them to other luxury brands like Bentley and Lexus. He discusses his initial skepticism about SUV coupes, his experiences with the vehicles' infotainment systems, and the pros and cons of their design and performance. He finds the GV80 Coupe particularly impressive for its luxury feel and lessens the sting of its high price point. Jon also mentions how the Genesis brand is evolving its own design language, distinct from other luxury brands. The episode ends with a nod to his favorite, the G80 sedan.
====================
• Judas Priest - Riding On the Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
• A digression on speed dating
• Genesis GV80 Coupe - The Car Least Likely To Make You Regret Your Car Payment, “a driver focused design”, mesh design theme J loves
• Lexus vs. Toyota, leather heated seats worth the extra $
• No creep in the transmission
• Hyundai Equus (https://jonsummers.net/2019/05/2014-hyundai-equus/) Kia K900 (https://jonsummers.net/2017/04/archives-2015-kia-k900/)
• New cars having different methods of starting / putting in gear. Unlike the cars we grew up with. Usually buttons “30 secs on the microwave, please”
• Testament - Electric Crown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
• Genesis GV80 - “the Range Rovery one”. 17mpg instead of 13mpg for the GV80 Coupe
• Genesis G80 sedan. J’s favourite. The blobby wheels (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GYRxZ7BajObvG05glIPknmNWkT2ot8a3/view?usp=sharing) . Red leather interior. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GdTZCTPe0jhdiAlKK8JZDc2UtLlZ7CtS/view?usp=sharing) Terrific at high speed. Compares favourably with J’s old AMG Benz (https://jonsummers.net/tag/mercedes-amg/) , a RWDV8 vs this, a AWD turbo V6. Old fashioned big fast sedan, it is a one size fits all, track day or airport limo.
• Genesis Sport vs. Sport+ settings
• Judas Priest - Riding On The Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
Jon begins Part-2 of his "Best of the Bay" recap with the Lexus GS550, highlighting its luxurious touch points and ideal size. He compares it to the Genesis GV series, favoring the Lexus for its subtle quality. Next, he reviews the Kia Sorento, noting its attractive interior and impressive features, although it falls short of the Lexus in material feel. Jon then examines the Kia Carnival minivan, praising its spacious design and handling. The Hyundai Ioniq 5N impresses him with its unique styling and sporty performance, albeit with a few quirks like a high trunk floor. Finally, he reviews the Elantra N, appreciating its old-school hot hatch feel and responsive handling. Throughout, Jon shares his experiences and observations, providing insight into what sets each vehicle apart.
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• Judas Priest - The Hellion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGtwgYt_QnA)
• Lexus GX550 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1prSZdd5AOQG9NLVUfq2Ylrt_wIDVtDx-/view?usp=sharing) - lovely materials justify the cost. Better quality than Genesis. Loved the giddyup.
• Judas Priest - Rock Hard, Ride Free (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5X4mKdfeUA)
• Kia Sorento - nice looking interior, content awesome, surprisingly stable, responsive at high speed, irritating electric whirr
• Comparing screen treatments
• An aside on Acura ZDX - HUD display worked well
• Kia Carnival - No irritating whirr, tons of space, surprisingly planted in high speed sweeping turns, a modern state of the art minivan
• Judas Priest - The Sentinel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ksksu9JDkg)
• Hyundai Ioniq 5 N (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d1TAXNyVSUQ0Wf0t3_Cy03tuFZW1g_b7/view?usp=sharing) - the triangle theme makes the Ioniq 5 an interesting piece of design. Perhaps short changed by driving only on slow roads. The gamification of performance; a 21st century turquoise shell suit of a car, “licence looser”, great value at sub $60k
• Hyundai Elantra N (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dhz5D2UIjPYWNKAkr_2jxCq6A-kJFSq5/view?usp=sharing) - Old school cool hot hatch. Buy this instead of the Ioniq, and save $20k. But a young person’s car. Coped well with emergency braking at high speed.
• Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8lrCtesIJk)
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Jon begins Part-2 of his "Best of the Bay" recap with the Lexus GS550, highlighting its luxurious touch points and ideal size. He compares it to the Genesis GV series, favoring the Lexus for its subtle quality. Next, he reviews the Kia Sorento, noting its attractive interior and impressive features, although it falls short of the Lexus in material feel. Jon then examines the Kia Carnival minivan, praising its spacious design and handling. The Hyundai Ioniq 5N impresses him with its unique styling and sporty performance, albeit with a few quirks like a high trunk floor. Finally, he reviews the Elantra N, appreciating its old-school hot hatch feel and responsive handling. Throughout, Jon shares his experiences and observations, providing insight into what sets each vehicle apart.
====================
• Judas Priest - The Hellion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGtwgYt_QnA)
• Lexus GX550 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1prSZdd5AOQG9NLVUfq2Ylrt_wIDVtDx-/view?usp=sharing) - lovely materials justify the cost. Better quality than Genesis. Loved the giddyup.
• Judas Priest - Rock Hard, Ride Free (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5X4mKdfeUA)
• Kia Sorento - nice looking interior, content awesome, surprisingly stable, responsive at high speed, irritating electric whirr
• Comparing screen treatments
• An aside on Acura ZDX - HUD display worked well
• Kia Carnival - No irritating whirr, tons of space, surprisingly planted in high speed sweeping turns, a modern state of the art minivan
• Judas Priest - The Sentinel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ksksu9JDkg)
• Hyundai Ioniq 5 N (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d1TAXNyVSUQ0Wf0t3_Cy03tuFZW1g_b7/view?usp=sharing) - the triangle theme makes the Ioniq 5 an interesting piece of design. Perhaps short changed by driving only on slow roads. The gamification of performance; a 21st century turquoise shell suit of a car, “licence looser”, great value at sub $60k
• Hyundai Elantra N (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dhz5D2UIjPYWNKAkr_2jxCq6A-kJFSq5/view?usp=sharing) - Old school cool hot hatch. Buy this instead of the Ioniq, and save $20k. But a young person’s car. Coped well with emergency braking at high speed.
• Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8lrCtesIJk)
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
In this episode Jon focuses on the 'Best of the Bay 2024' car event. He reminisces about his participation in various Western Automotive Journalists' events and acknowledges the organizers and contributors, especially Michael Coates and Page One Automotive. Jon details the event format, including driving routes and the structure of the test drives. He highlights various vehicles, mentioning the Toyota Camry as the best overall car due to its value, and the Lucid Air as an impressive but expensive option. He also shares his love for more soulful, less efficient older machines compared to modern, efficient cars. Jon ends with a reflection on the emotional connection with vehicles that newer models often lack.
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•
D.A.D. - Girl Nation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlNu-AwkWzk)
•
Thanks to Western Automotive Journailsts (https://waj.org/) and Michael Coates
•
Thanks to Page One (https://pageoneauto.com/) , the Press Car suppliers
•
Thanks to the OEMs for supplying cars, and nicely specc’d ones too
•
J is honest about these cars, lord knows he’s not doing this for the money
•
The venue - the Dream Inn, Santa Cruz (https://www.dreaminnsantacruz.com/)
•
Pacific Coast Highway 1 San Francisco to Santa Cruz - really an awesome road
•
17 cars, timetabled driving slots
•
Hill and coastal driving routes allowing high and low speed testing, including sweeping bends
•
Judgement to be “the Best At What The Car Set Out To Do”
•
J’s Best Car: 2025 Toyota Camry (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e9emIeBEKxKZZuQy_KgsOhTdYh9IKZNI/view?usp=sharing)
•
J’s Best, price no object: 2025 Lucid Air (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1035ggFZ2-tQrSCkg81khzj0Uqgvnqjcw/view?usp=sharing)
•
If It Was J’s Money: 2025 Genesis G80
•
2025 Fiat 500e - basic, but adequate
•
Many good cars, some great ones, no terrible ones
•
But none are as cool as the ‘91 Gixxer - 750 not a 1000 like I say - I rode before this recording
•
As the machines get more efficient, they become less intereting
•
Judas Priest - Free Wheel Burning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-vZrzbE9f4)
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In this episode Jon focuses on the 'Best of the Bay 2024' car event. He reminisces about his participation in various Western Automotive Journalists' events and acknowledges the organizers and contributors, especially Michael Coates and Page One Automotive. Jon details the event format, including driving routes and the structure of the test drives. He highlights various vehicles, mentioning the Toyota Camry as the best overall car due to its value, and the Lucid Air as an impressive but expensive option. He also shares his love for more soulful, less efficient older machines compared to modern, efficient cars. Jon ends with a reflection on the emotional connection with vehicles that newer models often lack.
====================
•
D.A.D. - Girl Nation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlNu-AwkWzk)
•
Thanks to Western Automotive Journailsts (https://waj.org/) and Michael Coates
•
Thanks to Page One (https://pageoneauto.com/) , the Press Car suppliers
•
Thanks to the OEMs for supplying cars, and nicely specc’d ones too
•
J is honest about these cars, lord knows he’s not doing this for the money
•
The venue - the Dream Inn, Santa Cruz (https://www.dreaminnsantacruz.com/)
•
Pacific Coast Highway 1 San Francisco to Santa Cruz - really an awesome road
•
17 cars, timetabled driving slots
•
Hill and coastal driving routes allowing high and low speed testing, including sweeping bends
•
Judgement to be “the Best At What The Car Set Out To Do”
•
J’s Best Car: 2025 Toyota Camry (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e9emIeBEKxKZZuQy_KgsOhTdYh9IKZNI/view?usp=sharing)
•
J’s Best, price no object: 2025 Lucid Air (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1035ggFZ2-tQrSCkg81khzj0Uqgvnqjcw/view?usp=sharing)
•
If It Was J’s Money: 2025 Genesis G80
•
2025 Fiat 500e - basic, but adequate
•
Many good cars, some great ones, no terrible ones
•
But none are as cool as the ‘91 Gixxer - 750 not a 1000 like I say - I rode before this recording
•
As the machines get more efficient, they become less intereting
•
Judas Priest - Free Wheel Burning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-vZrzbE9f4)
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
Jon embarks on highway journey where he discusses his most recent experiences, including winning an auction for a Gixxer 1100 motorcycle in Santa Monica and navigating the aftermath of the 2025 LA fires. He includes his road trip details, the challenges of riding different models, and his visit to Iconic Motorsports, where he picks up his newly acquired Gixxer 1100. Jon provides vivid descriptions of his journey through Northern and Southern California, emphasizing the changes and impacts of the fires on familiar LA locations.
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• Firehouse - All She Wrote (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWeSzU4Fa9Y)
• The Rock Store (http://rock-store.com/)
• A third Slingshot Gixxer 1100 (https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com/auction/no-reserve-1989-suzuki-gsx-r1100-project-3/)
• Challenges of 30 year old sportsbikes
• California Highway 25, 198 - highly recommended
• Harley Softail and Interstate 5 in the winter
• Reprising my stay in Grapevine, and the following awesome morning ride
• Iconic Motorcycles (https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com/)
• The Katana (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eHivX512oiimCg0XmpksJOXYC4IZ69sl/view?usp=drive_link)
• Tundra doesn’t notice Gixxer is in the bed
• Firehouse - Reach For The Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byq2K2IYMlI)
• PCH closed, troops and hummers
• Santa Monica business as usual
• Sunset in Ojai; 101 home
• Reflecting on declining classic bike prices
• In Flames - Clayman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niH6B1JxRAo)
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Jon embarks on highway journey where he discusses his most recent experiences, including winning an auction for a Gixxer 1100 motorcycle in Santa Monica and navigating the aftermath of the 2025 LA fires. He includes his road trip details, the challenges of riding different models, and his visit to Iconic Motorsports, where he picks up his newly acquired Gixxer 1100. Jon provides vivid descriptions of his journey through Northern and Southern California, emphasizing the changes and impacts of the fires on familiar LA locations.
====================
• Firehouse - All She Wrote (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWeSzU4Fa9Y)
• The Rock Store (http://rock-store.com/)
• A third Slingshot Gixxer 1100 (https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com/auction/no-reserve-1989-suzuki-gsx-r1100-project-3/)
• Challenges of 30 year old sportsbikes
• California Highway 25, 198 - highly recommended
• Harley Softail and Interstate 5 in the winter
• Reprising my stay in Grapevine, and the following awesome morning ride
• Iconic Motorcycles (https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com/)
• The Katana (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eHivX512oiimCg0XmpksJOXYC4IZ69sl/view?usp=drive_link)
• Tundra doesn’t notice Gixxer is in the bed
• Firehouse - Reach For The Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byq2K2IYMlI)
• PCH closed, troops and hummers
• Santa Monica business as usual
• Sunset in Ojai; 101 home
• Reflecting on declining classic bike prices
• In Flames - Clayman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niH6B1JxRAo)
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
Jon recounts his recent trip to Mexico where he observed the proliferation of Chinese electric vehicles (EVs) and motorcycles. During his visit, he noted the dominance of Chinese brands like BYD, MG, and Vento, and their competitive pricing compared to traditional manufacturers like Nissan and Toyota. He discusses the implications of this market shift, citing specific experiences with BYD's durability and Vento's market presence. Jon also reflects on the broader impact of these emerging brands on established automakers and their potential future in global markets.
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00:00 Trip to Mexico: Unexpected Automotive Discoveries
00:56 Chinese EVs in Mexico
02:16 BYD: The New Player in Town
03:37 Nissan vs. Chinese Automakers
06:48 MG and Other Chinese Brands
12:21 Motorcycles in Mexico
14:56 Vento: The Surprising Leader
19:17 The Future of the Automotive Industry
25:12 Conclusion and Sponsorship
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Jon recounts his recent trip to Mexico where he observed the proliferation of Chinese electric vehicles (EVs) and motorcycles. During his visit, he noted the dominance of Chinese brands like BYD, MG, and Vento, and their competitive pricing compared to traditional manufacturers like Nissan and Toyota. He discusses the implications of this market shift, citing specific experiences with BYD's durability and Vento's market presence. Jon also reflects on the broader impact of these emerging brands on established automakers and their potential future in global markets.
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00:00 Trip to Mexico: Unexpected Automotive Discoveries
00:56 Chinese EVs in Mexico
02:16 BYD: The New Player in Town
03:37 Nissan vs. Chinese Automakers
06:48 MG and Other Chinese Brands
12:21 Motorcycles in Mexico
14:56 Vento: The Surprising Leader
19:17 The Future of the Automotive Industry
25:12 Conclusion and Sponsorship
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
In this episode, Jon reflects on his experiences and the evolving landscape of automotive safety. He delves into the presentation by the airbag manufacturer Autoliv, exploring the company's innovations and their impact on global car safety. Jon also shares his thoughts on the tension between safety measures and the freedom of driving, recounting personal anecdotes and observations on motorcycle riding, driver behavior, and regulatory environments. The episode covers the history and future trends in automotive technology, the role of organizations like the Society of Automotive Engineers, and the broader implications of vehicle autonomy and electrification.
====================
2001: A Space Odyssey
Autoliv (https://www.autoliv.com/) have half of the global airbag market
The venue - Nordic Innovation House (https://www.nordicinnovationhouse.com/)
Similar event to the Hawkwind and Lidar pod (https://jonsummers.net/2024/06/ep22-hawkwind-the-history-of-lidar/)
Sven Beiker and SAE Mobilus (https://saemobilus.sae.org/)
Know Thine Enemy ?
Safety Fast, not Safety Fast
The Motorcycle Helmet law debate - personal choice, or the state’s right to dictate what you do
Harley Davidson Roadglide (https://7fe785354fc06820f32f-61b445db3b8ac2022791984a16bf429e.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/1HD1KTP12LB600167/becd5b1674283abb0c77dbecf370e50b.jpg) digression
Smoking while riding
Barry Sheene’s smoking helmet (https://i.redd.it/8qx9ijspdk2b1.jpg)
Ned Ludd (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Ludd)
Saving 35,000 lives a year, targeting 100,000
Safety is a Sherman Tank for the School Run
Freedom and Freedumb are a trade off
Waymo now (Q4 ‘24) functional in San Francisco, despite the odd phantom driver
The Roi de Belge opera seating position (https://images.prewarcar.com/pics/r2w-1200x800-caradverts/542846/1903_Mercedes_Simplex_60HP_RdB_3_koyzsc.jpg) and Leopold of Belgium
Becker Limos (https://beckerautodesign.com/)
Vis a Vis seating (https://www1.wdr.de/stichtag/stichtagseptemberdreizehn122~_v-gseapremiumxl.jpg)
The cliche’d image of the Car of The Future (https://techhong.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/0cc0e5bdfbb56e1d287a27c893e0c875_Sketch-of-a-driverless-car-of-the-future-Saturday-Evening-Post-in-the-1950s-6.png)
Freedumb makes you happy - exposing yourself to irrational danger makes you fullfilled
Exposure to risk makes it an adventure
Parrallels between dogs and bikes
Honda CBR Racebike (https://jonsummers.net/2009/11/el-mirage/) lives again
An embarrassing fall
Bikini chicks and celebrities
Forgetting to switch on the CBR fuel tap
A eulogy on doing hard things because they are hard
Analysis and Statistics suck the Joy out of motoring
Running Wild - Free Wind Rider
SAE and Standards
Hanna Karlssen
Bunac (https://bunac.org/summer-camp-usa) Student Exchange program
Active Safety vs. Passive Safety
$5 milliseconds to get an airbag inflated
Only 10ms for side impact airbags
The Door Hit; Keith Odor, Mike Hawthorn, JD McDuffie
Airbags for big rigs, safely rolling 18 wheelers
Airbags in bikes (https://www.autoliv.com/safety-solutions/motorcycles-bikes) (!!!)
Pedestrian airbags in the cowl
Run over by a grey Citroen BX
“We Must Design For Free Flying Objects in the Cabin”
Steering Wheel Cover design
Zoox Fireside Seating (new words for Vis A Vis)
Safety Focus on Low Speed Prangs
Blocking and Tackling of safety - seat belt positions, design of cars noses
Saxon - Forever Free
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In this episode, Jon reflects on his experiences and the evolving landscape of automotive safety. He delves into the presentation by the airbag manufacturer Autoliv, exploring the company's innovations and their impact on global car safety. Jon also shares his thoughts on the tension between safety measures and the freedom of driving, recounting personal anecdotes and observations on motorcycle riding, driver behavior, and regulatory environments. The episode covers the history and future trends in automotive technology, the role of organizations like the Society of Automotive Engineers, and the broader implications of vehicle autonomy and electrification.
====================
2001: A Space Odyssey
Autoliv (https://www.autoliv.com/) have half of the global airbag market
The venue - Nordic Innovation House (https://www.nordicinnovationhouse.com/)
Similar event to the Hawkwind and Lidar pod (https://jonsummers.net/2024/06/ep22-hawkwind-the-history-of-lidar/)
Sven Beiker and SAE Mobilus (https://saemobilus.sae.org/)
Know Thine Enemy ?
Safety Fast, not Safety Fast
The Motorcycle Helmet law debate - personal choice, or the state’s right to dictate what you do
Harley Davidson Roadglide (https://7fe785354fc06820f32f-61b445db3b8ac2022791984a16bf429e.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/1HD1KTP12LB600167/becd5b1674283abb0c77dbecf370e50b.jpg) digression
Smoking while riding
Barry Sheene’s smoking helmet (https://i.redd.it/8qx9ijspdk2b1.jpg)
Ned Ludd (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Ludd)
Saving 35,000 lives a year, targeting 100,000
Safety is a Sherman Tank for the School Run
Freedom and Freedumb are a trade off
Waymo now (Q4 ‘24) functional in San Francisco, despite the odd phantom driver
The Roi de Belge opera seating position (https://images.prewarcar.com/pics/r2w-1200x800-caradverts/542846/1903_Mercedes_Simplex_60HP_RdB_3_koyzsc.jpg) and Leopold of Belgium
Becker Limos (https://beckerautodesign.com/)
Vis a Vis seating (https://www1.wdr.de/stichtag/stichtagseptemberdreizehn122~_v-gseapremiumxl.jpg)
The cliche’d image of the Car of The Future (https://techhong.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/0cc0e5bdfbb56e1d287a27c893e0c875_Sketch-of-a-driverless-car-of-the-future-Saturday-Evening-Post-in-the-1950s-6.png)
Freedumb makes you happy - exposing yourself to irrational danger makes you fullfilled
Exposure to risk makes it an adventure
Parrallels between dogs and bikes
Honda CBR Racebike (https://jonsummers.net/2009/11/el-mirage/) lives again
An embarrassing fall
Bikini chicks and celebrities
Forgetting to switch on the CBR fuel tap
A eulogy on doing hard things because they are hard
Analysis and Statistics suck the Joy out of motoring
Running Wild - Free Wind Rider
SAE and Standards
Hanna Karlssen
Bunac (https://bunac.org/summer-camp-usa) Student Exchange program
Active Safety vs. Passive Safety
$5 milliseconds to get an airbag inflated
Only 10ms for side impact airbags
The Door Hit; Keith Odor, Mike Hawthorn, JD McDuffie
Airbags for big rigs, safely rolling 18 wheelers
Airbags in bikes (https://www.autoliv.com/safety-solutions/motorcycles-bikes) (!!!)
Pedestrian airbags in the cowl
Run over by a grey Citroen BX
“We Must Design For Free Flying Objects in the Cabin”
Steering Wheel Cover design
Zoox Fireside Seating (new words for Vis A Vis)
Safety Focus on Low Speed Prangs
Blocking and Tackling of safety - seat belt positions, design of cars noses
Saxon - Forever Free
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
This episode covers reflections on the evolving nature of historical storytelling and its importance, and how society currently undervalues historians as Jon delves into the intersection of history and modern automotive technology. He discusses his recent experience at the Automobility User Interfaces 2024 conference held at Stanford. He also elaborates on different themes from the conference, including vehicle user interfaces, autonomous driving and its interaction with humans, the role of dynamic lighting in vehicles, and the intriguing functionalities of future car designs. Special mention is given to his keynote participation alongside Dr. Barbara Karanian, where they encapsulated elements from their Stanford teaching course, 'ME236 - Tales to Design Cars By.' The show encapsulates the forward-thinking discussions at the conference on the future of personal mobility, user interface developments, and maintaining the essence of traditional automobiles amidst rapid technological changes.
00:00:00 Conference Overview: Automobility User Interfaces 2024
00:00:56 The Role of Historians in Modern Contexts
00:01:47 Reflections on the Value of Storytellers and Historians
00:02:39 Stanford Conference Experience
00:03:47 Keynote Speech with Barbara Karanian
00:07:28 The Importance of Storytelling in Academia
00:08:36 Generational Shifts in Car Enthusiasm
00:11:23 The Evolution of Autonomous Vehicle Research
00:43:14 Challenges in Autonomous Driving
00:48:06 Sustainability and Future Mobility Solutions
00:52:40 Pedestrian Safety Measures
00:55:19 Eco Driving and Autonomous Vehicles
00:56:45 Urban Mobility and Infrastructure
00:59:07 Personal Reflections on Driving Changes
01:02:08 Autonomous Vehicle Research Highlights
01:22:04 Pro Social Behavior in Micro Mobility
01:37:40 Bystander Effect in Autonomous Buses
01:41:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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This episode covers reflections on the evolving nature of historical storytelling and its importance, and how society currently undervalues historians as Jon delves into the intersection of history and modern automotive technology. He discusses his recent experience at the Automobility User Interfaces 2024 conference held at Stanford. He also elaborates on different themes from the conference, including vehicle user interfaces, autonomous driving and its interaction with humans, the role of dynamic lighting in vehicles, and the intriguing functionalities of future car designs. Special mention is given to his keynote participation alongside Dr. Barbara Karanian, where they encapsulated elements from their Stanford teaching course, 'ME236 - Tales to Design Cars By.' The show encapsulates the forward-thinking discussions at the conference on the future of personal mobility, user interface developments, and maintaining the essence of traditional automobiles amidst rapid technological changes.
00:00:00 Conference Overview: Automobility User Interfaces 2024
00:00:56 The Role of Historians in Modern Contexts
00:01:47 Reflections on the Value of Storytellers and Historians
00:02:39 Stanford Conference Experience
00:03:47 Keynote Speech with Barbara Karanian
00:07:28 The Importance of Storytelling in Academia
00:08:36 Generational Shifts in Car Enthusiasm
00:11:23 The Evolution of Autonomous Vehicle Research
00:43:14 Challenges in Autonomous Driving
00:48:06 Sustainability and Future Mobility Solutions
00:52:40 Pedestrian Safety Measures
00:55:19 Eco Driving and Autonomous Vehicles
00:56:45 Urban Mobility and Infrastructure
00:59:07 Personal Reflections on Driving Changes
01:02:08 Autonomous Vehicle Research Highlights
01:22:04 Pro Social Behavior in Micro Mobility
01:37:40 Bystander Effect in Autonomous Buses
01:41:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
Sometimes we can go a bit off the rails in an episode, here's some additional content from the Group B Rally discussion that didn't quite fit in the main episode. Enjoy this Pit Stop minisode.
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
00:00 Technical Challenges and Overcoming Them
00:50 Origins and Evolution of Rallying
02:25 Favorite Rally Events and Stages
05:39 Classic Car Stories and Group B
08:45 Audi's Legacy in Motorsports
10:15 Building the Ultimate Rally Team
10:55 The Risk of Rally Drivers
11:16 Consistency vs. Speed
11:49 Choosing the Best Drivers
12:11 The Versatility of Rally Drivers
13:28 The Legacy of Group B
16:15 Modern Rally Legends
19:04 The Complexity of Rally Scoring
19:35 Best of the Bay Event
20:33 Conclusion and Call to Action
====================
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Sometimes we can go a bit off the rails in an episode, here's some additional content from the Group B Rally discussion that didn't quite fit in the main episode. Enjoy this Pit Stop minisode.
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
00:00 Technical Challenges and Overcoming Them
00:50 Origins and Evolution of Rallying
02:25 Favorite Rally Events and Stages
05:39 Classic Car Stories and Group B
08:45 Audi's Legacy in Motorsports
10:15 Building the Ultimate Rally Team
10:55 The Risk of Rally Drivers
11:16 Consistency vs. Speed
11:49 Choosing the Best Drivers
12:11 The Versatility of Rally Drivers
13:28 The Legacy of Group B
16:15 Modern Rally Legends
19:04 The Complexity of Rally Scoring
19:35 Best of the Bay Event
20:33 Conclusion and Call to Action
====================
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
On this episode Jon Summers invites Crew Chief Eric from Break/Fix Podcast to debate "Who Was Best" in the 1980s Group B Rally. Was it: Audi, Lancia or Peugeot?
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00:00:00 Group B Rallying: A Technological Revolution
00:02:07 The Golden Era of Rally: Group B
00:03:01 The Role of Producers in Reality TV and Motorsport
00:03:56 Setting the Scene: Group B Rally Cars
00:06:19 The Evolution of Group B Rally Cars
00:11:06 The Impact of Group B on Motorsport
00:35:04 The Rise of Lancia and the Delta S4
00:43:29 Ford's Struggle and the RS200
00:47:21 The Legacy of Group B and Its Cars
00:49:33 Group B Disbandment and Nostalgia
00:50:15 The Influence of Virtual World on Group B
00:50:47 Personal Connection to Rallying
00:51:36 The Evolution of Rally Cars in Games
00:52:35 Analyzing Group B Cars' Performance
00:54:20 Best Car of the Group B Era
00:56:30 Legendary Drivers of Group B
00:57:13 Hannu Mikkola: The Comeback King
01:05:33 Michele Mouton: Breaking Barriers
01:12:33 Ari Vatanen: The Artistry of Drift
01:19:42 The Tragic End of Group B
01:32:22 Legacy and Modern Rallying
01:36:30 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
====================
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On this episode Jon Summers invites Crew Chief Eric from Break/Fix Podcast to debate "Who Was Best" in the 1980s Group B Rally. Was it: Audi, Lancia or Peugeot?
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
00:00:00 Group B Rallying: A Technological Revolution
00:02:07 The Golden Era of Rally: Group B
00:03:01 The Role of Producers in Reality TV and Motorsport
00:03:56 Setting the Scene: Group B Rally Cars
00:06:19 The Evolution of Group B Rally Cars
00:11:06 The Impact of Group B on Motorsport
00:35:04 The Rise of Lancia and the Delta S4
00:43:29 Ford's Struggle and the RS200
00:47:21 The Legacy of Group B and Its Cars
00:49:33 Group B Disbandment and Nostalgia
00:50:15 The Influence of Virtual World on Group B
00:50:47 Personal Connection to Rallying
00:51:36 The Evolution of Rally Cars in Games
00:52:35 Analyzing Group B Cars' Performance
00:54:20 Best Car of the Group B Era
00:56:30 Legendary Drivers of Group B
00:57:13 Hannu Mikkola: The Comeback King
01:05:33 Michele Mouton: Breaking Barriers
01:12:33 Ari Vatanen: The Artistry of Drift
01:19:42 The Tragic End of Group B
01:32:22 Legacy and Modern Rallying
01:36:30 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
====================
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
In this episode of 'The Motoring Historian' with Jon Summers, he is joined by returning guest John Garcia, delving into the niche world of Irish road racing. The show begins by recounting personal motorcycle anecdotes and transitions to a discussion about the unique culture of road racing in Ireland, contrasting it with more mainstream events like the Isle of Man TT. John Garcia shares his recent experiences riding in Ireland, highlighting the grassroots nature of the sport and his participation in a local motorcycle rally. The narrative also addresses the challenges facing this form of motorsport, including safety and insurance issues. Additionally, there are side stories of memorable motorcycle rides, encounters with local characters, and personal reflections on the changing landscape of San Francisco's motorcycling community.
• Whiskey In The Jar
• John Garcia, and Remus his dog
• Samson - Riding With The Angles (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXz7tW9pJwo)
• The Yamaha XS650 which brought us together
• The Free Motorcycle (https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/incredible-suzuki-gsx-r-experience-da-winna/)
• A Motorcycle Love Letter
• Irish Neil, Construction guy, AMA Champion
• A bad highside
• Stripping racebikes in a wheelchair
• Neil’s Hayabusa sales technique
• Cholmondeley-Tapper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Pitt_Cholmondeley-Tapper) buying a Bugatti for the same reason
• A shipping crate full of Hayabusas
• Irish road racers in California
• Gaz and the Bandit
• Gaz’ x-ray image (https://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/knee-xray-bad-shape-penis-haning-in-exray-funny.jpg)
• Speeding ticket vs. pool
• Gary Moore - Nuclear Attack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpocxpMmCug)
• Sharing a warehouse with Irish Moving
• “When Amazon moved in, we got kicked out”
• The Boys Are Back In Town
• Mark Gammie and Seat Cupras
• Cupra Formentor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupra_Formentor) rental car
• John rides in Ireland
• The traditional closed roads triangle course
• Falling off on cow sh1t
• Wheelieing a ‘91 GSXR 1100. In the rain.
• Suzuki B-King (https://moto.zombdrive.com/images/suzuki-bking-2.jpg)
• Fore Race course (https://www.myracingcareer.com/images/tracks/fore_600.jpg)
• Derek Shiels (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF5NkKgW4AUfWIh.jpg)
• The Seven Wonders pub
• A Sierra and a dry stone wall
• Neil’s brother’s Marker Stone
• Whiskey in the Jar
• Appendix A - Gaz’ second “close one” (https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/farmer-shot-eight-times-by-drunken-neighbour-shocked-as-shooter-walks-free/a1297732563.html)
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Copyright Jon Summers, The Motoring Historian. This content is also available via jonsummers.net. This episode is part of the Motoring Podcast Network and has been republished with permission.[+] Show More
In this episode of 'The Motoring Historian' with Jon Summers, he is joined by returning guest John Garcia, delving into the niche world of Irish road racing. The show begins by recounting personal motorcycle anecdotes and transitions to a discussion about the unique culture of road racing in Ireland, contrasting it with more mainstream events like the Isle of Man TT. John Garcia shares his recent experiences riding in Ireland, highlighting the grassroots nature of the sport and his participation in a local motorcycle rally. The narrative also addresses the challenges facing this form of motorsport, including safety and insurance issues. Additionally, there are side stories of memorable motorcycle rides, encounters with local characters, and personal reflections on the changing landscape of San Francisco's motorcycling community.
• Whiskey In The Jar
• John Garcia, and Remus his dog
• Samson - Riding With The Angles (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXz7tW9pJwo)
• The Yamaha XS650 which brought us together
• The Free Motorcycle (https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/incredible-suzuki-gsx-r-experience-da-winna/)
• A Motorcycle Love Letter
• Irish Neil, Construction guy, AMA Champion
• A bad highside
• Stripping racebikes in a wheelchair
• Neil’s Hayabusa sales technique
• Cholmondeley-Tapper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Pitt_Cholmondeley-Tapper) buying a Bugatti for the same reason
• A shipping crate full of Hayabusas
• Irish road racers in California
• Gaz and the Bandit
• Gaz’ x-ray image (https://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/knee-xray-bad-shape-penis-haning-in-exray-funny.jpg)
• Speeding ticket vs. pool
• Gary Moore - Nuclear Attack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpocxpMmCug)
• Sharing a warehouse with Irish Moving
• “When Amazon moved in, we got kicked out”
• The Boys Are Back In Town
• Mark Gammie and Seat Cupras
• Cupra Formentor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupra_Formentor) rental car
• John rides in Ireland
• The traditional closed roads triangle course
• Falling off on cow sh1t
• Wheelieing a ‘91 GSXR 1100. In the rain.
• Suzuki B-King (https://moto.zombdrive.com/images/suzuki-bking-2.jpg)
• Fore Race course (https://www.myracingcareer.com/images/tracks/fore_600.jpg)
• Derek Shiels (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF5NkKgW4AUfWIh.jpg)
• The Seven Wonders pub
• A Sierra and a dry stone wall
• Neil’s brother’s Marker Stone
• Whiskey in the Jar
• Appendix A - Gaz’ second “close one” (https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/farmer-shot-eight-times-by-drunken-neighbour-shocked-as-shooter-walks-free/a1297732563.html)
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
Jon narrates his unexpected journey of purchasing a 2016 Toyota Tundra Limited. Despite his longstanding preference for Rams with high performance engines, he opted for a Tundra for its practicality, reliability, and suitability for California's lifestyle. Jon recounts his experiences with various trucks, emphasizing the appeal of the Tundra's build quality and its suitability for both daily driving and towing. He also shares anecdotes from his visits to dealerships and the Toyota factory, highlighting cultural and historical aspects of Toyota's manufacturing. His detailed and personal account underscores the pragmatic choice of a vehicle that blends durability with everyday convenience.
• Trevor Something - Into Your Heart (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80214E8FuBo)
• Toyota: respect, not love
• Dually Rams and buying vehicles to the nth degree
• No MoT, the Land of the Free
• The Hot Rod, with no mudguards or windshield
• A 2016 Toyota Tundra Limited
• Towed my Mercedes home
• Thanks, Toyota of Clovis (https://www.toyotaofclovis.com/)
• Dodge Ram SRT10 (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9f/18/a4/9f18a41898adc37667efbe5e104b79e8.jpg)
• The 1000lb/ft Ram Dually (https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a25881136/2019-ram-heavy-duty-pictures-specs-hp-info/) …
• …as the 3 car hauler (https://ninjadispatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Truck-and-Trailer-Loaded-1-1067x800.jpeg)
• 68RFE vs Aisin
• Route 66 Road Trip Pod (https://jonsummers.net/2023/08/ep11-cricket-poker-gold-route-66-revisited-and-death-valley-with-no-a-c/)
• Lemonsquad (https://lemonsquad.com/?a=b&keyword=lemon%20squad&matchtype=e&msclkid=f908b05448c51cf24d24d709ef526e86&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=LemonSquad_Branded_Brand_Exact%26Phrase&utm_term=lemon%20squad&utm_content=Pure%20Brand%20-%20Exact)
• Dodging two white Rams
• Escalades as the pinnacle tow vehicle
• Bought with 198k. One owner, Clean Carfax
• Toyota more school run friendly than ex-ranch Dually Ram with bullbar
• Truck needs to double as a luxury car
• Tundra as Land Cruise with bed and bigger motor
• Two sizes of crew cab - 3 Series or 7 Series size rear seats
• Tundra 1794 (https://www.yotatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/20200901_183813-Copy.jpg)
• Ford King Ranch (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/ad/48/bead48ba9fd02686e8ff2b8bf4edd18e.jpg)
• The value of the back up camera
• The black Tundra with Arthur Daley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minder_(TV_series)) in Sacramento
• CarUk Lee (https://www.youtube.com/@carukchannel/videos)
• A word on 200k trucks
• Toyotas - “only when you beat on them - REALLY beat on them - do you understand” M. Newton
• Too hot for a road test
• Rabbit Pitts’ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMWQnzs9X-A) “Paw Paw” Truck
• The long life of Toyota trucks
• Pulling to the right, “they all do that, Sir”
• Towing the Mercedes home, in 116 degree heat
• A super capable tow vehicle
• Planning well to choose and look at truck, but not how to pay and get home
• Earlier experience with Toyotas as hot air balloon ground crew
• Other pod guests, Newton and Garcia love and always own Toyota trucks
• Domestic pick up size, V8, allied with Toyotas reliability
• Even if the reliability is a myth the perceived reliability drives value
• Ford truck motors highly stressed vs Chevy, Toyota
• Interior looks lke 40k, not 200k
• A visit to the Toyota factory (https://jonsummers.net/2014/05/toyota-town/)
• Toyoda and Toyota
• Soichiro Honda as personification of the brand, and in motorsport
• Toyota isn’t racing, it’s rebuild the nation
• W210 Mercedes (https://media.fastestlaps.com/mercedes-benz-e-200-w210.jpg) copied by Lexus GS300 (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/ac/79/cfac794e8a797e2838b0fde8ecc63fc0.jpg)
• Toyota - cheap feeling materials like Ford but screwed together like and 80s Mercedes
• Experiments with High 4
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Jon narrates his unexpected journey of purchasing a 2016 Toyota Tundra Limited. Despite his longstanding preference for Rams with high performance engines, he opted for a Tundra for its practicality, reliability, and suitability for California's lifestyle. Jon recounts his experiences with various trucks, emphasizing the appeal of the Tundra's build quality and its suitability for both daily driving and towing. He also shares anecdotes from his visits to dealerships and the Toyota factory, highlighting cultural and historical aspects of Toyota's manufacturing. His detailed and personal account underscores the pragmatic choice of a vehicle that blends durability with everyday convenience.
• Trevor Something - Into Your Heart (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80214E8FuBo)
• Toyota: respect, not love
• Dually Rams and buying vehicles to the nth degree
• No MoT, the Land of the Free
• The Hot Rod, with no mudguards or windshield
• A 2016 Toyota Tundra Limited
• Towed my Mercedes home
• Thanks, Toyota of Clovis (https://www.toyotaofclovis.com/)
• Dodge Ram SRT10 (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9f/18/a4/9f18a41898adc37667efbe5e104b79e8.jpg)
• The 1000lb/ft Ram Dually (https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a25881136/2019-ram-heavy-duty-pictures-specs-hp-info/) …
• …as the 3 car hauler (https://ninjadispatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Truck-and-Trailer-Loaded-1-1067x800.jpeg)
• 68RFE vs Aisin
• Route 66 Road Trip Pod (https://jonsummers.net/2023/08/ep11-cricket-poker-gold-route-66-revisited-and-death-valley-with-no-a-c/)
• Lemonsquad (https://lemonsquad.com/?a=b&keyword=lemon%20squad&matchtype=e&msclkid=f908b05448c51cf24d24d709ef526e86&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=LemonSquad_Branded_Brand_Exact%26Phrase&utm_term=lemon%20squad&utm_content=Pure%20Brand%20-%20Exact)
• Dodging two white Rams
• Escalades as the pinnacle tow vehicle
• Bought with 198k. One owner, Clean Carfax
• Toyota more school run friendly than ex-ranch Dually Ram with bullbar
• Truck needs to double as a luxury car
• Tundra as Land Cruise with bed and bigger motor
• Two sizes of crew cab - 3 Series or 7 Series size rear seats
• Tundra 1794 (https://www.yotatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/20200901_183813-Copy.jpg)
• Ford King Ranch (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/ad/48/bead48ba9fd02686e8ff2b8bf4edd18e.jpg)
• The value of the back up camera
• The black Tundra with Arthur Daley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minder_(TV_series)) in Sacramento
• CarUk Lee (https://www.youtube.com/@carukchannel/videos)
• A word on 200k trucks
• Toyotas - “only when you beat on them - REALLY beat on them - do you understand” M. Newton
• Too hot for a road test
• Rabbit Pitts’ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMWQnzs9X-A) “Paw Paw” Truck
• The long life of Toyota trucks
• Pulling to the right, “they all do that, Sir”
• Towing the Mercedes home, in 116 degree heat
• A super capable tow vehicle
• Planning well to choose and look at truck, but not how to pay and get home
• Earlier experience with Toyotas as hot air balloon ground crew
• Other pod guests, Newton and Garcia love and always own Toyota trucks
• Domestic pick up size, V8, allied with Toyotas reliability
• Even if the reliability is a myth the perceived reliability drives value
• Ford truck motors highly stressed vs Chevy, Toyota
• Interior looks lke 40k, not 200k
• A visit to the Toyota factory (https://jonsummers.net/2014/05/toyota-town/)
• Toyoda and Toyota
• Soichiro Honda as personification of the brand, and in motorsport
• Toyota isn’t racing, it’s rebuild the nation
• W210 Mercedes (https://media.fastestlaps.com/mercedes-benz-e-200-w210.jpg) copied by Lexus GS300 (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/ac/79/cfac794e8a797e2838b0fde8ecc63fc0.jpg)
• Toyota - cheap feeling materials like Ford but screwed together like and 80s Mercedes
• Experiments with High 4
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Tonight, we delve into the extraordinary life of a man who wasn’t just a racing legend but an icon of human spirit and determination.
Through the lens of Netflix's highly anticipated ...miniseries, we’ll explore the meteoric rise, relentless drive, and untamed passion of Ayrton Senna—one of Formula 1's greatest champions.
Born in Brazil, a land of contrasts and dreams, Senna’s journey was nothing short of a cinematic masterpiece. From his humble beginnings on the karting tracks of São Paulo to his three world championships and the unforgettable rivalries that defined an era, Ayrton's story is as exhilarating as the circuits he conquered.
But beyond the roar of the engines, the glitz of podiums, and the iconic yellow helmet, there was a man. A man who carried the weight of a nation, who raced with his heart as much as his skill, and whose life ended too soon, leaving a legacy that transcends sport.
This is more than a story about speed and victory; it’s a tale of resilience, faith, and a relentless pursuit of perfection.
And joining us tonight to help break down the miniseries episode by episode and dissect its most pivotal moments is our most-returnest guest co-host William “Big Money” Ross from the Exotic Car Marketplace, along with Professor Jon Summers, the Motoring Historian.
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00:00:00 Ayrton Senna: The Racing Legend
00:01:19 Exploring Netflix's Senna Miniseries
00:01:46 The Anticipation and Production of the Series
00:02:20 Analyzing the Miniseries: Style and Substance
00:03:48 Senna's Story: From Brazil to Formula One
00:04:05 The Miniseries' Portrayal of Senna
00:05:38 Entertainment vs. Historical Accuracy
00:06:40 Senna's Early Racing Career
00:07:53 The Fast-Paced Storytelling of the Miniseries
00:11:33 Senna's Personal Life and Relationships
00:16:17 Senna's Rivalries and Racing Tactics
00:20:17 The Role of Media and Public Perception
00:23:33 Senna's Impact on Formula One
00:25:02 The Prost-Senna Rivalry
00:35:08 The Legacy of Ayrton Senna
00:41:37 Senna's Infamous Lap of the Gods
00:42:02 Senna's Out of Body Experience
00:43:30 The Real Senna: Authenticity and Reactions
00:45:22 Monaco 1990: Redemption
00:45:30 Action Sequences and Real Footage
00:48:35 Senna's Relationship with Honda
00:54:14 Senna's Personal Life and Relationships
00:57:17 The Tragic Weekend at Imola
01:06:39 Senna's Legacy and Final Thoughts
01:14:52 Conclusion and Recommendations
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The Motoring Podcast Network : Years of racing, wrenching and Motorsports experience brings together a top notch collection of knowledge, stories and information. #everyonehasastory #gtmbreakfix - motoringpodcast.net (https://www.motoringpodcast.net)
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Through the lens of Netflix's highly anticipated ...miniseries, we’ll explore the meteoric rise, relentless drive, and untamed passion of Ayrton Senna—one of Formula 1's greatest champions.
Born in Brazil, a land of contrasts and dreams, Senna’s journey was nothing short of a cinematic masterpiece. From his humble beginnings on the karting tracks of São Paulo to his three world championships and the unforgettable rivalries that defined an era, Ayrton's story is as exhilarating as the circuits he conquered.
But beyond the roar of the engines, the glitz of podiums, and the iconic yellow helmet, there was a man. A man who carried the weight of a nation, who raced with his heart as much as his skill, and whose life ended too soon, leaving a legacy that transcends sport.
This is more than a story about speed and victory; it’s a tale of resilience, faith, and a relentless pursuit of perfection.
And joining us tonight to help break down the miniseries episode by episode and dissect its most pivotal moments is our most-returnest guest co-host William “Big Money” Ross from the Exotic Car Marketplace, along with Professor Jon Summers, the Motoring Historian.
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00:00:00 Ayrton Senna: The Racing Legend
00:01:19 Exploring Netflix's Senna Miniseries
00:01:46 The Anticipation and Production of the Series
00:02:20 Analyzing the Miniseries: Style and Substance
00:03:48 Senna's Story: From Brazil to Formula One
00:04:05 The Miniseries' Portrayal of Senna
00:05:38 Entertainment vs. Historical Accuracy
00:06:40 Senna's Early Racing Career
00:07:53 The Fast-Paced Storytelling of the Miniseries
00:11:33 Senna's Personal Life and Relationships
00:16:17 Senna's Rivalries and Racing Tactics
00:20:17 The Role of Media and Public Perception
00:23:33 Senna's Impact on Formula One
00:25:02 The Prost-Senna Rivalry
00:35:08 The Legacy of Ayrton Senna
00:41:37 Senna's Infamous Lap of the Gods
00:42:02 Senna's Out of Body Experience
00:43:30 The Real Senna: Authenticity and Reactions
00:45:22 Monaco 1990: Redemption
00:45:30 Action Sequences and Real Footage
00:48:35 Senna's Relationship with Honda
00:54:14 Senna's Personal Life and Relationships
00:57:17 The Tragic Weekend at Imola
01:06:39 Senna's Legacy and Final Thoughts
01:14:52 Conclusion and Recommendations
====================
The Motoring Podcast Network : Years of racing, wrenching and Motorsports experience brings together a top notch collection of knowledge, stories and information. #everyonehasastory #gtmbreakfix - motoringpodcast.net (https://www.motoringpodcast.net)
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• Become a VIP at: https://www.patreon.com/gtmotorsports
• Online Magazine: https://www.gtmotorsports.org/ (https://www.gtmotorsports.org/links)
Articles from the TL:DR mini-series can be found on gtmotorsports.org (https://www.gtmotorsports.org) ; and if you'd like early access to these minisodes, be sure to check out our Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=37288069) .[+] Show More