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What Should I Buy? - Gray Market Cars!
On this episode, we’ll explore the art of the possible, with some special guests! We’re welcoming back Chris Bright, formerly of Collector Part Exchange, along with Jon Summers - The Motoring Historian - and then we’ll round out our fabulous What Should I Buy? panel with veteran members William “Big Money” Ross, Mark “The Data Cruncher” Shank, and the one and only Don Weberg from Garage Style Magazine.
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00:00:00 Exploring Forbidden Fruit: 25-Year Import Rule
00:00:45 Setting the Stage: Gray Market Cars
00:05:53 Diving into JDM Cars
00:17:02 Exploring Holden and Australian Imports
00:21:28 TVR and British Imports
00:33:03 Exploring European Rally and Touring Cars
00:33:35 The Appeal of British Cars
00:41:22 Diving into Italian Cars: Alfa Romeo and Beyond
00:59:36 The Allure of French Cars: Renault, Peugeot, Citroën oh my!
01:14:21 The German Car Market's Hidden Gems
01:23:29 Importing Cars: Tips, Tricks, and Legal Loopholes
01:27:50 Investment Advice for Car Collectors
01:32:33 Lightning Round: Dream "Gray Market" Cars
01:36:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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We dive into the world of forbidden fruit—cars that were never officially sold in the U.S. but are now hitting our shores thanks to the 25-year import rule. From turbocharged ...rally monsters to high-revving Asian exotics, these grey market gems have long been the stuff of dreams for American enthusiasts. And now, many of them are finally within reach!
On this episode, we’ll explore the art of the possible, with some special guests! We’re welcoming back Chris Bright, formerly of Collector Part Exchange, along with Jon Summers - The Motoring Historian - and then we’ll round out our fabulous What Should I Buy? panel with veteran members William “Big Money” Ross, Mark “The Data Cruncher” Shank, and the one and only Don Weberg from Garage Style Magazine.
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00:00:00 Exploring Forbidden Fruit: 25-Year Import Rule
00:00:45 Setting the Stage: Gray Market Cars
00:05:53 Diving into JDM Cars
00:17:02 Exploring Holden and Australian Imports
00:21:28 TVR and British Imports
00:33:03 Exploring European Rally and Touring Cars
00:33:35 The Appeal of British Cars
00:41:22 Diving into Italian Cars: Alfa Romeo and Beyond
00:59:36 The Allure of French Cars: Renault, Peugeot, Citroën oh my!
01:14:21 The German Car Market's Hidden Gems
01:23:29 Importing Cars: Tips, Tricks, and Legal Loopholes
01:27:50 Investment Advice for Car Collectors
01:32:33 Lightning Round: Dream "Gray Market" Cars
01:36:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
====================
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On this episode, we’ll explore the art of the possible, with some special guests! We’re welcoming back Chris Bright, formerly of Collector Part Exchange, along with Jon Summers - The Motoring Historian - and then we’ll round out our fabulous What Should I Buy? panel with veteran members William “Big Money” Ross, Mark “The Data Cruncher” Shank, and the one and only Don Weberg from Garage Style Magazine.
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00:00:00 Exploring Forbidden Fruit: 25-Year Import Rule
00:00:45 Setting the Stage: Gray Market Cars
00:05:53 Diving into JDM Cars
00:17:02 Exploring Holden and Australian Imports
00:21:28 TVR and British Imports
00:33:03 Exploring European Rally and Touring Cars
00:33:35 The Appeal of British Cars
00:41:22 Diving into Italian Cars: Alfa Romeo and Beyond
00:59:36 The Allure of French Cars: Renault, Peugeot, Citroën oh my!
01:14:21 The German Car Market's Hidden Gems
01:23:29 Importing Cars: Tips, Tricks, and Legal Loopholes
01:27:50 Investment Advice for Car Collectors
01:32:33 Lightning Round: Dream "Gray Market" Cars
01:36:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
====================
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
In this episode, Jon provides his insights on the latest vehicles in the 'Best of the Bay' road test series. He discusses and compares three standout cars: the 2025 Toyota Camry XSE, the full-size Range Rover, and the Lucid. The Camry is highlighted for its exceptional combination of performance and value, with characteristics comparable to a Lexus. The Range Rover impresses with its luxurious leather interior and commanding presence, though it is costly. The Lucid, despite being the most technologically advanced car tested and priced at double the Camry, stands out for its futuristic design and performance, making an impression on both Jon and a passerby during the review. John concludes with endorsements for the vehicles based on different consumer preferences.
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• The Donnas - Take It Off (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vni0TzWeEUM)
• “Camry Gonna Camry” - a bit better than you expect, in every respect: price, performance, look and feel inside and outside
• Full Fat Range Rover; the double whammy of the look and smell of the leather so memorable. Only 1 on road driving mode. The most civilized car we drove on the test day, makes you feel like an aristocrat. J can’t do a Rangey though, he already has a corgi!
• Chops Garage (link)
• Lazerhawk - Dream Machine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB3ibdil2UM)
• Episode 1 and driving the 1100hp Lucid to its frightening top speed two years ago
• Lucid decontented: 430hp, no moonroof, 80k not 200k
• The pre-production one in Santana Row vs. the up contented 1100hp with the Restoration Harware (https://rh.com/) Interior
• The decontented car is the best car we drove during BotB
• The awesome calibration of the regen braking - it feels like a big german sedan engine braking at autobahn speeds
• Smooth, Swift and Sprint modes; about power delivery style. J preferred Smooth.
• Makes the Genesis, Rangey feel a last generation
• The Opinion of a Prius Car Camper - “That Thing Is SICK!”
• Overall, the Camry was Best Value; Lucid was Best Car; J would take the Genesis G80 sedan; the Single Best Thing was the Hellcat motor
• Zodiac Mindwarp - Airline Highway (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ZWFcz107k)
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In this episode, Jon provides his insights on the latest vehicles in the 'Best of the Bay' road test series. He discusses and compares three standout cars: the 2025 Toyota Camry XSE, the full-size Range Rover, and the Lucid. The Camry is highlighted for its exceptional combination of performance and value, with characteristics comparable to a Lexus. The Range Rover impresses with its luxurious leather interior and commanding presence, though it is costly. The Lucid, despite being the most technologically advanced car tested and priced at double the Camry, stands out for its futuristic design and performance, making an impression on both Jon and a passerby during the review. John concludes with endorsements for the vehicles based on different consumer preferences.
====================
• The Donnas - Take It Off (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vni0TzWeEUM)
• “Camry Gonna Camry” - a bit better than you expect, in every respect: price, performance, look and feel inside and outside
• Full Fat Range Rover; the double whammy of the look and smell of the leather so memorable. Only 1 on road driving mode. The most civilized car we drove on the test day, makes you feel like an aristocrat. J can’t do a Rangey though, he already has a corgi!
• Chops Garage (link)
• Lazerhawk - Dream Machine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB3ibdil2UM)
• Episode 1 and driving the 1100hp Lucid to its frightening top speed two years ago
• Lucid decontented: 430hp, no moonroof, 80k not 200k
• The pre-production one in Santana Row vs. the up contented 1100hp with the Restoration Harware (https://rh.com/) Interior
• The decontented car is the best car we drove during BotB
• The awesome calibration of the regen braking - it feels like a big german sedan engine braking at autobahn speeds
• Smooth, Swift and Sprint modes; about power delivery style. J preferred Smooth.
• Makes the Genesis, Rangey feel a last generation
• The Opinion of a Prius Car Camper - “That Thing Is SICK!”
• Overall, the Camry was Best Value; Lucid was Best Car; J would take the Genesis G80 sedan; the Single Best Thing was the Hellcat motor
• Zodiac Mindwarp - Airline Highway (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ZWFcz107k)
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
In this episode, Jon reviews three vehicles, he discusses the Fiat 500e, highlighting its small size, aggressive regenerative braking, and plasticky interior, questioning its value considering depreciation. Next, he delves into the Dodge Durango Hellcat, lauding its 707 horsepower engine but critiquing its high price and overall build quality compared to competitors like Lexus and Genesis. Finally, he briefly evaluates the Acura ZDX, noting its competent performance but ultimately finding it unmemorable. Throughout, Jon shares anecdotes about technology glitches and driving experiences.
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• Accept - Restless and Wild (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCKGMfPqJwY)
• Fiat 500E - Perfectly adequate car. Luddite struggles getting it into gear. Nice evolution of the previous model. J would recommend one, but used. Let someone else suffer the depreciation hit of a new EV!!!!
• Over enthusiastic driver aids, the Acura ZDX a “500hp mother hen”
• Fiat overhears J’s muttering, tries to help me
• Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love Reaction - Holy Gasoline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwZL09tH3g4)
• Dodge Durango Hellcat vs. Genesis GV80. Durango Hellcat vs. Lexus GX550 AND Elantra N. That 707hp V8, J’s Best Piece Of Technology. Center tach, like a 911 or a Gixxer. Durango Hellcat vs. Ram SRT-10, and aero limited top speed. Stable at high speed. But the news is the organic power delivery. Is the price even relevant, is this already a collector car?
• Acura ZDX - Low wide station wagon shape instead of Rivian style tall upright SUVs
• Zodiac Mindwarp - Airline Highway (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ZWFcz107k)
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In this episode, Jon reviews three vehicles, he discusses the Fiat 500e, highlighting its small size, aggressive regenerative braking, and plasticky interior, questioning its value considering depreciation. Next, he delves into the Dodge Durango Hellcat, lauding its 707 horsepower engine but critiquing its high price and overall build quality compared to competitors like Lexus and Genesis. Finally, he briefly evaluates the Acura ZDX, noting its competent performance but ultimately finding it unmemorable. Throughout, Jon shares anecdotes about technology glitches and driving experiences.
====================
• Accept - Restless and Wild (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCKGMfPqJwY)
• Fiat 500E - Perfectly adequate car. Luddite struggles getting it into gear. Nice evolution of the previous model. J would recommend one, but used. Let someone else suffer the depreciation hit of a new EV!!!!
• Over enthusiastic driver aids, the Acura ZDX a “500hp mother hen”
• Fiat overhears J’s muttering, tries to help me
• Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love Reaction - Holy Gasoline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwZL09tH3g4)
• Dodge Durango Hellcat vs. Genesis GV80. Durango Hellcat vs. Lexus GX550 AND Elantra N. That 707hp V8, J’s Best Piece Of Technology. Center tach, like a 911 or a Gixxer. Durango Hellcat vs. Ram SRT-10, and aero limited top speed. Stable at high speed. But the news is the organic power delivery. Is the price even relevant, is this already a collector car?
• Acura ZDX - Low wide station wagon shape instead of Rivian style tall upright SUVs
• Zodiac Mindwarp - Airline Highway (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ZWFcz107k)
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
In this episode, Jon reviews three Genesis vehicles during a road test in Santa Cruz. Exploring the Genesis GV80 Coupe, GV80, and G80 sedan, he compares them to other luxury brands like Bentley and Lexus. He discusses his initial skepticism about SUV coupes, his experiences with the vehicles' infotainment systems, and the pros and cons of their design and performance. He finds the GV80 Coupe particularly impressive for its luxury feel and lessens the sting of its high price point. Jon also mentions how the Genesis brand is evolving its own design language, distinct from other luxury brands. The episode ends with a nod to his favorite, the G80 sedan.
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• Judas Priest - Riding On the Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
• A digression on speed dating
• Genesis GV80 Coupe - The Car Least Likely To Make You Regret Your Car Payment, “a driver focused design”, mesh design theme J loves
• Lexus vs. Toyota, leather heated seats worth the extra $
• No creep in the transmission
• Hyundai Equus (https://jonsummers.net/2019/05/2014-hyundai-equus/) Kia K900 (https://jonsummers.net/2017/04/archives-2015-kia-k900/)
• New cars having different methods of starting / putting in gear. Unlike the cars we grew up with. Usually buttons “30 secs on the microwave, please”
• Testament - Electric Crown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
• Genesis GV80 - “the Range Rovery one”. 17mpg instead of 13mpg for the GV80 Coupe
• Genesis G80 sedan. J’s favourite. The blobby wheels (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GYRxZ7BajObvG05glIPknmNWkT2ot8a3/view?usp=sharing) . Red leather interior. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GdTZCTPe0jhdiAlKK8JZDc2UtLlZ7CtS/view?usp=sharing) Terrific at high speed. Compares favourably with J’s old AMG Benz (https://jonsummers.net/tag/mercedes-amg/) , a RWDV8 vs this, a AWD turbo V6. Old fashioned big fast sedan, it is a one size fits all, track day or airport limo.
• Genesis Sport vs. Sport+ settings
• Judas Priest - Riding On The Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
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In this episode, Jon reviews three Genesis vehicles during a road test in Santa Cruz. Exploring the Genesis GV80 Coupe, GV80, and G80 sedan, he compares them to other luxury brands like Bentley and Lexus. He discusses his initial skepticism about SUV coupes, his experiences with the vehicles' infotainment systems, and the pros and cons of their design and performance. He finds the GV80 Coupe particularly impressive for its luxury feel and lessens the sting of its high price point. Jon also mentions how the Genesis brand is evolving its own design language, distinct from other luxury brands. The episode ends with a nod to his favorite, the G80 sedan.
====================
• Judas Priest - Riding On the Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
• A digression on speed dating
• Genesis GV80 Coupe - The Car Least Likely To Make You Regret Your Car Payment, “a driver focused design”, mesh design theme J loves
• Lexus vs. Toyota, leather heated seats worth the extra $
• No creep in the transmission
• Hyundai Equus (https://jonsummers.net/2019/05/2014-hyundai-equus/) Kia K900 (https://jonsummers.net/2017/04/archives-2015-kia-k900/)
• New cars having different methods of starting / putting in gear. Unlike the cars we grew up with. Usually buttons “30 secs on the microwave, please”
• Testament - Electric Crown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
• Genesis GV80 - “the Range Rovery one”. 17mpg instead of 13mpg for the GV80 Coupe
• Genesis G80 sedan. J’s favourite. The blobby wheels (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GYRxZ7BajObvG05glIPknmNWkT2ot8a3/view?usp=sharing) . Red leather interior. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GdTZCTPe0jhdiAlKK8JZDc2UtLlZ7CtS/view?usp=sharing) Terrific at high speed. Compares favourably with J’s old AMG Benz (https://jonsummers.net/tag/mercedes-amg/) , a RWDV8 vs this, a AWD turbo V6. Old fashioned big fast sedan, it is a one size fits all, track day or airport limo.
• Genesis Sport vs. Sport+ settings
• Judas Priest - Riding On The Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyWuBNot3o)
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
Jon begins Part-2 of his "Best of the Bay" recap with the Lexus GS550, highlighting its luxurious touch points and ideal size. He compares it to the Genesis GV series, favoring the Lexus for its subtle quality. Next, he reviews the Kia Sorento, noting its attractive interior and impressive features, although it falls short of the Lexus in material feel. Jon then examines the Kia Carnival minivan, praising its spacious design and handling. The Hyundai Ioniq 5N impresses him with its unique styling and sporty performance, albeit with a few quirks like a high trunk floor. Finally, he reviews the Elantra N, appreciating its old-school hot hatch feel and responsive handling. Throughout, Jon shares his experiences and observations, providing insight into what sets each vehicle apart.
====================
• Judas Priest - The Hellion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGtwgYt_QnA)
• Lexus GX550 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1prSZdd5AOQG9NLVUfq2Ylrt_wIDVtDx-/view?usp=sharing) - lovely materials justify the cost. Better quality than Genesis. Loved the giddyup.
• Judas Priest - Rock Hard, Ride Free (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5X4mKdfeUA)
• Kia Sorento - nice looking interior, content awesome, surprisingly stable, responsive at high speed, irritating electric whirr
• Comparing screen treatments
• An aside on Acura ZDX - HUD display worked well
• Kia Carnival - No irritating whirr, tons of space, surprisingly planted in high speed sweeping turns, a modern state of the art minivan
• Judas Priest - The Sentinel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ksksu9JDkg)
• Hyundai Ioniq 5 N (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d1TAXNyVSUQ0Wf0t3_Cy03tuFZW1g_b7/view?usp=sharing) - the triangle theme makes the Ioniq 5 an interesting piece of design. Perhaps short changed by driving only on slow roads. The gamification of performance; a 21st century turquoise shell suit of a car, “licence looser”, great value at sub $60k
• Hyundai Elantra N (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dhz5D2UIjPYWNKAkr_2jxCq6A-kJFSq5/view?usp=sharing) - Old school cool hot hatch. Buy this instead of the Ioniq, and save $20k. But a young person’s car. Coped well with emergency braking at high speed.
• Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8lrCtesIJk)
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Jon begins Part-2 of his "Best of the Bay" recap with the Lexus GS550, highlighting its luxurious touch points and ideal size. He compares it to the Genesis GV series, favoring the Lexus for its subtle quality. Next, he reviews the Kia Sorento, noting its attractive interior and impressive features, although it falls short of the Lexus in material feel. Jon then examines the Kia Carnival minivan, praising its spacious design and handling. The Hyundai Ioniq 5N impresses him with its unique styling and sporty performance, albeit with a few quirks like a high trunk floor. Finally, he reviews the Elantra N, appreciating its old-school hot hatch feel and responsive handling. Throughout, Jon shares his experiences and observations, providing insight into what sets each vehicle apart.
====================
• Judas Priest - The Hellion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGtwgYt_QnA)
• Lexus GX550 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1prSZdd5AOQG9NLVUfq2Ylrt_wIDVtDx-/view?usp=sharing) - lovely materials justify the cost. Better quality than Genesis. Loved the giddyup.
• Judas Priest - Rock Hard, Ride Free (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5X4mKdfeUA)
• Kia Sorento - nice looking interior, content awesome, surprisingly stable, responsive at high speed, irritating electric whirr
• Comparing screen treatments
• An aside on Acura ZDX - HUD display worked well
• Kia Carnival - No irritating whirr, tons of space, surprisingly planted in high speed sweeping turns, a modern state of the art minivan
• Judas Priest - The Sentinel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ksksu9JDkg)
• Hyundai Ioniq 5 N (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d1TAXNyVSUQ0Wf0t3_Cy03tuFZW1g_b7/view?usp=sharing) - the triangle theme makes the Ioniq 5 an interesting piece of design. Perhaps short changed by driving only on slow roads. The gamification of performance; a 21st century turquoise shell suit of a car, “licence looser”, great value at sub $60k
• Hyundai Elantra N (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dhz5D2UIjPYWNKAkr_2jxCq6A-kJFSq5/view?usp=sharing) - Old school cool hot hatch. Buy this instead of the Ioniq, and save $20k. But a young person’s car. Coped well with emergency braking at high speed.
• Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8lrCtesIJk)
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
In this episode Jon focuses on the 'Best of the Bay 2024' car event. He reminisces about his participation in various Western Automotive Journalists' events and acknowledges the organizers and contributors, especially Michael Coates and Page One Automotive. Jon details the event format, including driving routes and the structure of the test drives. He highlights various vehicles, mentioning the Toyota Camry as the best overall car due to its value, and the Lucid Air as an impressive but expensive option. He also shares his love for more soulful, less efficient older machines compared to modern, efficient cars. Jon ends with a reflection on the emotional connection with vehicles that newer models often lack.
====================
•
D.A.D. - Girl Nation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlNu-AwkWzk)
•
Thanks to Western Automotive Journailsts (https://waj.org/) and Michael Coates
•
Thanks to Page One (https://pageoneauto.com/) , the Press Car suppliers
•
Thanks to the OEMs for supplying cars, and nicely specc’d ones too
•
J is honest about these cars, lord knows he’s not doing this for the money
•
The venue - the Dream Inn, Santa Cruz (https://www.dreaminnsantacruz.com/)
•
Pacific Coast Highway 1 San Francisco to Santa Cruz - really an awesome road
•
17 cars, timetabled driving slots
•
Hill and coastal driving routes allowing high and low speed testing, including sweeping bends
•
Judgement to be “the Best At What The Car Set Out To Do”
•
J’s Best Car: 2025 Toyota Camry (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e9emIeBEKxKZZuQy_KgsOhTdYh9IKZNI/view?usp=sharing)
•
J’s Best, price no object: 2025 Lucid Air (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1035ggFZ2-tQrSCkg81khzj0Uqgvnqjcw/view?usp=sharing)
•
If It Was J’s Money: 2025 Genesis G80
•
2025 Fiat 500e - basic, but adequate
•
Many good cars, some great ones, no terrible ones
•
But none are as cool as the ‘91 Gixxer - 750 not a 1000 like I say - I rode before this recording
•
As the machines get more efficient, they become less intereting
•
Judas Priest - Free Wheel Burning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-vZrzbE9f4)
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In this episode Jon focuses on the 'Best of the Bay 2024' car event. He reminisces about his participation in various Western Automotive Journalists' events and acknowledges the organizers and contributors, especially Michael Coates and Page One Automotive. Jon details the event format, including driving routes and the structure of the test drives. He highlights various vehicles, mentioning the Toyota Camry as the best overall car due to its value, and the Lucid Air as an impressive but expensive option. He also shares his love for more soulful, less efficient older machines compared to modern, efficient cars. Jon ends with a reflection on the emotional connection with vehicles that newer models often lack.
====================
•
D.A.D. - Girl Nation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlNu-AwkWzk)
•
Thanks to Western Automotive Journailsts (https://waj.org/) and Michael Coates
•
Thanks to Page One (https://pageoneauto.com/) , the Press Car suppliers
•
Thanks to the OEMs for supplying cars, and nicely specc’d ones too
•
J is honest about these cars, lord knows he’s not doing this for the money
•
The venue - the Dream Inn, Santa Cruz (https://www.dreaminnsantacruz.com/)
•
Pacific Coast Highway 1 San Francisco to Santa Cruz - really an awesome road
•
17 cars, timetabled driving slots
•
Hill and coastal driving routes allowing high and low speed testing, including sweeping bends
•
Judgement to be “the Best At What The Car Set Out To Do”
•
J’s Best Car: 2025 Toyota Camry (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e9emIeBEKxKZZuQy_KgsOhTdYh9IKZNI/view?usp=sharing)
•
J’s Best, price no object: 2025 Lucid Air (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1035ggFZ2-tQrSCkg81khzj0Uqgvnqjcw/view?usp=sharing)
•
If It Was J’s Money: 2025 Genesis G80
•
2025 Fiat 500e - basic, but adequate
•
Many good cars, some great ones, no terrible ones
•
But none are as cool as the ‘91 Gixxer - 750 not a 1000 like I say - I rode before this recording
•
As the machines get more efficient, they become less intereting
•
Judas Priest - Free Wheel Burning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-vZrzbE9f4)
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
Jon embarks on highway journey where he discusses his most recent experiences, including winning an auction for a Gixxer 1100 motorcycle in Santa Monica and navigating the aftermath of the 2025 LA fires. He includes his road trip details, the challenges of riding different models, and his visit to Iconic Motorsports, where he picks up his newly acquired Gixxer 1100. Jon provides vivid descriptions of his journey through Northern and Southern California, emphasizing the changes and impacts of the fires on familiar LA locations.
====================
• Firehouse - All She Wrote (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWeSzU4Fa9Y)
• The Rock Store (http://rock-store.com/)
• A third Slingshot Gixxer 1100 (https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com/auction/no-reserve-1989-suzuki-gsx-r1100-project-3/)
• Challenges of 30 year old sportsbikes
• California Highway 25, 198 - highly recommended
• Harley Softail and Interstate 5 in the winter
• Reprising my stay in Grapevine, and the following awesome morning ride
• Iconic Motorcycles (https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com/)
• The Katana (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eHivX512oiimCg0XmpksJOXYC4IZ69sl/view?usp=drive_link)
• Tundra doesn’t notice Gixxer is in the bed
• Firehouse - Reach For The Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byq2K2IYMlI)
• PCH closed, troops and hummers
• Santa Monica business as usual
• Sunset in Ojai; 101 home
• Reflecting on declining classic bike prices
• In Flames - Clayman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niH6B1JxRAo)
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Jon embarks on highway journey where he discusses his most recent experiences, including winning an auction for a Gixxer 1100 motorcycle in Santa Monica and navigating the aftermath of the 2025 LA fires. He includes his road trip details, the challenges of riding different models, and his visit to Iconic Motorsports, where he picks up his newly acquired Gixxer 1100. Jon provides vivid descriptions of his journey through Northern and Southern California, emphasizing the changes and impacts of the fires on familiar LA locations.
====================
• Firehouse - All She Wrote (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWeSzU4Fa9Y)
• The Rock Store (http://rock-store.com/)
• A third Slingshot Gixxer 1100 (https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com/auction/no-reserve-1989-suzuki-gsx-r1100-project-3/)
• Challenges of 30 year old sportsbikes
• California Highway 25, 198 - highly recommended
• Harley Softail and Interstate 5 in the winter
• Reprising my stay in Grapevine, and the following awesome morning ride
• Iconic Motorcycles (https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com/)
• The Katana (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eHivX512oiimCg0XmpksJOXYC4IZ69sl/view?usp=drive_link)
• Tundra doesn’t notice Gixxer is in the bed
• Firehouse - Reach For The Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byq2K2IYMlI)
• PCH closed, troops and hummers
• Santa Monica business as usual
• Sunset in Ojai; 101 home
• Reflecting on declining classic bike prices
• In Flames - Clayman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niH6B1JxRAo)
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
Jon recounts his recent trip to Mexico where he observed the proliferation of Chinese electric vehicles (EVs) and motorcycles. During his visit, he noted the dominance of Chinese brands like BYD, MG, and Vento, and their competitive pricing compared to traditional manufacturers like Nissan and Toyota. He discusses the implications of this market shift, citing specific experiences with BYD's durability and Vento's market presence. Jon also reflects on the broader impact of these emerging brands on established automakers and their potential future in global markets.
====================
00:00 Trip to Mexico: Unexpected Automotive Discoveries
00:56 Chinese EVs in Mexico
02:16 BYD: The New Player in Town
03:37 Nissan vs. Chinese Automakers
06:48 MG and Other Chinese Brands
12:21 Motorcycles in Mexico
14:56 Vento: The Surprising Leader
19:17 The Future of the Automotive Industry
25:12 Conclusion and Sponsorship
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Jon recounts his recent trip to Mexico where he observed the proliferation of Chinese electric vehicles (EVs) and motorcycles. During his visit, he noted the dominance of Chinese brands like BYD, MG, and Vento, and their competitive pricing compared to traditional manufacturers like Nissan and Toyota. He discusses the implications of this market shift, citing specific experiences with BYD's durability and Vento's market presence. Jon also reflects on the broader impact of these emerging brands on established automakers and their potential future in global markets.
====================
00:00 Trip to Mexico: Unexpected Automotive Discoveries
00:56 Chinese EVs in Mexico
02:16 BYD: The New Player in Town
03:37 Nissan vs. Chinese Automakers
06:48 MG and Other Chinese Brands
12:21 Motorcycles in Mexico
14:56 Vento: The Surprising Leader
19:17 The Future of the Automotive Industry
25:12 Conclusion and Sponsorship
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
In this episode, Jon reflects on his experiences and the evolving landscape of automotive safety. He delves into the presentation by the airbag manufacturer Autoliv, exploring the company's innovations and their impact on global car safety. Jon also shares his thoughts on the tension between safety measures and the freedom of driving, recounting personal anecdotes and observations on motorcycle riding, driver behavior, and regulatory environments. The episode covers the history and future trends in automotive technology, the role of organizations like the Society of Automotive Engineers, and the broader implications of vehicle autonomy and electrification.
====================
2001: A Space Odyssey
Autoliv (https://www.autoliv.com/) have half of the global airbag market
The venue - Nordic Innovation House (https://www.nordicinnovationhouse.com/)
Similar event to the Hawkwind and Lidar pod (https://jonsummers.net/2024/06/ep22-hawkwind-the-history-of-lidar/)
Sven Beiker and SAE Mobilus (https://saemobilus.sae.org/)
Know Thine Enemy ?
Safety Fast, not Safety Fast
The Motorcycle Helmet law debate - personal choice, or the state’s right to dictate what you do
Harley Davidson Roadglide (https://7fe785354fc06820f32f-61b445db3b8ac2022791984a16bf429e.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/1HD1KTP12LB600167/becd5b1674283abb0c77dbecf370e50b.jpg) digression
Smoking while riding
Barry Sheene’s smoking helmet (https://i.redd.it/8qx9ijspdk2b1.jpg)
Ned Ludd (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Ludd)
Saving 35,000 lives a year, targeting 100,000
Safety is a Sherman Tank for the School Run
Freedom and Freedumb are a trade off
Waymo now (Q4 ‘24) functional in San Francisco, despite the odd phantom driver
The Roi de Belge opera seating position (https://images.prewarcar.com/pics/r2w-1200x800-caradverts/542846/1903_Mercedes_Simplex_60HP_RdB_3_koyzsc.jpg) and Leopold of Belgium
Becker Limos (https://beckerautodesign.com/)
Vis a Vis seating (https://www1.wdr.de/stichtag/stichtagseptemberdreizehn122~_v-gseapremiumxl.jpg)
The cliche’d image of the Car of The Future (https://techhong.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/0cc0e5bdfbb56e1d287a27c893e0c875_Sketch-of-a-driverless-car-of-the-future-Saturday-Evening-Post-in-the-1950s-6.png)
Freedumb makes you happy - exposing yourself to irrational danger makes you fullfilled
Exposure to risk makes it an adventure
Parrallels between dogs and bikes
Honda CBR Racebike (https://jonsummers.net/2009/11/el-mirage/) lives again
An embarrassing fall
Bikini chicks and celebrities
Forgetting to switch on the CBR fuel tap
A eulogy on doing hard things because they are hard
Analysis and Statistics suck the Joy out of motoring
Running Wild - Free Wind Rider
SAE and Standards
Hanna Karlssen
Bunac (https://bunac.org/summer-camp-usa) Student Exchange program
Active Safety vs. Passive Safety
$5 milliseconds to get an airbag inflated
Only 10ms for side impact airbags
The Door Hit; Keith Odor, Mike Hawthorn, JD McDuffie
Airbags for big rigs, safely rolling 18 wheelers
Airbags in bikes (https://www.autoliv.com/safety-solutions/motorcycles-bikes) (!!!)
Pedestrian airbags in the cowl
Run over by a grey Citroen BX
“We Must Design For Free Flying Objects in the Cabin”
Steering Wheel Cover design
Zoox Fireside Seating (new words for Vis A Vis)
Safety Focus on Low Speed Prangs
Blocking and Tackling of safety - seat belt positions, design of cars noses
Saxon - Forever Free
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Copyright Jon Summers, The Motoring Historian. This content is also available via jonsummers.net. This episode is part of the Motoring Podcast Network and has been republished with permission.Show More
In this episode, Jon reflects on his experiences and the evolving landscape of automotive safety. He delves into the presentation by the airbag manufacturer Autoliv, exploring the company's innovations and their impact on global car safety. Jon also shares his thoughts on the tension between safety measures and the freedom of driving, recounting personal anecdotes and observations on motorcycle riding, driver behavior, and regulatory environments. The episode covers the history and future trends in automotive technology, the role of organizations like the Society of Automotive Engineers, and the broader implications of vehicle autonomy and electrification.
====================
2001: A Space Odyssey
Autoliv (https://www.autoliv.com/) have half of the global airbag market
The venue - Nordic Innovation House (https://www.nordicinnovationhouse.com/)
Similar event to the Hawkwind and Lidar pod (https://jonsummers.net/2024/06/ep22-hawkwind-the-history-of-lidar/)
Sven Beiker and SAE Mobilus (https://saemobilus.sae.org/)
Know Thine Enemy ?
Safety Fast, not Safety Fast
The Motorcycle Helmet law debate - personal choice, or the state’s right to dictate what you do
Harley Davidson Roadglide (https://7fe785354fc06820f32f-61b445db3b8ac2022791984a16bf429e.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/1HD1KTP12LB600167/becd5b1674283abb0c77dbecf370e50b.jpg) digression
Smoking while riding
Barry Sheene’s smoking helmet (https://i.redd.it/8qx9ijspdk2b1.jpg)
Ned Ludd (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Ludd)
Saving 35,000 lives a year, targeting 100,000
Safety is a Sherman Tank for the School Run
Freedom and Freedumb are a trade off
Waymo now (Q4 ‘24) functional in San Francisco, despite the odd phantom driver
The Roi de Belge opera seating position (https://images.prewarcar.com/pics/r2w-1200x800-caradverts/542846/1903_Mercedes_Simplex_60HP_RdB_3_koyzsc.jpg) and Leopold of Belgium
Becker Limos (https://beckerautodesign.com/)
Vis a Vis seating (https://www1.wdr.de/stichtag/stichtagseptemberdreizehn122~_v-gseapremiumxl.jpg)
The cliche’d image of the Car of The Future (https://techhong.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/0cc0e5bdfbb56e1d287a27c893e0c875_Sketch-of-a-driverless-car-of-the-future-Saturday-Evening-Post-in-the-1950s-6.png)
Freedumb makes you happy - exposing yourself to irrational danger makes you fullfilled
Exposure to risk makes it an adventure
Parrallels between dogs and bikes
Honda CBR Racebike (https://jonsummers.net/2009/11/el-mirage/) lives again
An embarrassing fall
Bikini chicks and celebrities
Forgetting to switch on the CBR fuel tap
A eulogy on doing hard things because they are hard
Analysis and Statistics suck the Joy out of motoring
Running Wild - Free Wind Rider
SAE and Standards
Hanna Karlssen
Bunac (https://bunac.org/summer-camp-usa) Student Exchange program
Active Safety vs. Passive Safety
$5 milliseconds to get an airbag inflated
Only 10ms for side impact airbags
The Door Hit; Keith Odor, Mike Hawthorn, JD McDuffie
Airbags for big rigs, safely rolling 18 wheelers
Airbags in bikes (https://www.autoliv.com/safety-solutions/motorcycles-bikes) (!!!)
Pedestrian airbags in the cowl
Run over by a grey Citroen BX
“We Must Design For Free Flying Objects in the Cabin”
Steering Wheel Cover design
Zoox Fireside Seating (new words for Vis A Vis)
Safety Focus on Low Speed Prangs
Blocking and Tackling of safety - seat belt positions, design of cars noses
Saxon - Forever Free
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
This episode covers reflections on the evolving nature of historical storytelling and its importance, and how society currently undervalues historians as Jon delves into the intersection of history and modern automotive technology. He discusses his recent experience at the Automobility User Interfaces 2024 conference held at Stanford. He also elaborates on different themes from the conference, including vehicle user interfaces, autonomous driving and its interaction with humans, the role of dynamic lighting in vehicles, and the intriguing functionalities of future car designs. Special mention is given to his keynote participation alongside Dr. Barbara Karanian, where they encapsulated elements from their Stanford teaching course, 'ME236 - Tales to Design Cars By.' The show encapsulates the forward-thinking discussions at the conference on the future of personal mobility, user interface developments, and maintaining the essence of traditional automobiles amidst rapid technological changes.
00:00:00 Conference Overview: Automobility User Interfaces 2024
00:00:56 The Role of Historians in Modern Contexts
00:01:47 Reflections on the Value of Storytellers and Historians
00:02:39 Stanford Conference Experience
00:03:47 Keynote Speech with Barbara Karanian
00:07:28 The Importance of Storytelling in Academia
00:08:36 Generational Shifts in Car Enthusiasm
00:11:23 The Evolution of Autonomous Vehicle Research
00:43:14 Challenges in Autonomous Driving
00:48:06 Sustainability and Future Mobility Solutions
00:52:40 Pedestrian Safety Measures
00:55:19 Eco Driving and Autonomous Vehicles
00:56:45 Urban Mobility and Infrastructure
00:59:07 Personal Reflections on Driving Changes
01:02:08 Autonomous Vehicle Research Highlights
01:22:04 Pro Social Behavior in Micro Mobility
01:37:40 Bystander Effect in Autonomous Buses
01:41:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
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Copyright Jon Summers, The Motoring Historian. This content is also available via jonsummers.net. This episode is part of the Motoring Podcast Network and has been republished with permission.Show More
This episode covers reflections on the evolving nature of historical storytelling and its importance, and how society currently undervalues historians as Jon delves into the intersection of history and modern automotive technology. He discusses his recent experience at the Automobility User Interfaces 2024 conference held at Stanford. He also elaborates on different themes from the conference, including vehicle user interfaces, autonomous driving and its interaction with humans, the role of dynamic lighting in vehicles, and the intriguing functionalities of future car designs. Special mention is given to his keynote participation alongside Dr. Barbara Karanian, where they encapsulated elements from their Stanford teaching course, 'ME236 - Tales to Design Cars By.' The show encapsulates the forward-thinking discussions at the conference on the future of personal mobility, user interface developments, and maintaining the essence of traditional automobiles amidst rapid technological changes.
00:00:00 Conference Overview: Automobility User Interfaces 2024
00:00:56 The Role of Historians in Modern Contexts
00:01:47 Reflections on the Value of Storytellers and Historians
00:02:39 Stanford Conference Experience
00:03:47 Keynote Speech with Barbara Karanian
00:07:28 The Importance of Storytelling in Academia
00:08:36 Generational Shifts in Car Enthusiasm
00:11:23 The Evolution of Autonomous Vehicle Research
00:43:14 Challenges in Autonomous Driving
00:48:06 Sustainability and Future Mobility Solutions
00:52:40 Pedestrian Safety Measures
00:55:19 Eco Driving and Autonomous Vehicles
00:56:45 Urban Mobility and Infrastructure
00:59:07 Personal Reflections on Driving Changes
01:02:08 Autonomous Vehicle Research Highlights
01:22:04 Pro Social Behavior in Micro Mobility
01:37:40 Bystander Effect in Autonomous Buses
01:41:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
Sometimes we can go a bit off the rails in an episode, here's some additional content from the Group B Rally discussion that didn't quite fit in the main episode. Enjoy this Pit Stop minisode.
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00:00 Technical Challenges and Overcoming Them
00:50 Origins and Evolution of Rallying
02:25 Favorite Rally Events and Stages
05:39 Classic Car Stories and Group B
08:45 Audi's Legacy in Motorsports
10:15 Building the Ultimate Rally Team
10:55 The Risk of Rally Drivers
11:16 Consistency vs. Speed
11:49 Choosing the Best Drivers
12:11 The Versatility of Rally Drivers
13:28 The Legacy of Group B
16:15 Modern Rally Legends
19:04 The Complexity of Rally Scoring
19:35 Best of the Bay Event
20:33 Conclusion and Call to Action
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Sometimes we can go a bit off the rails in an episode, here's some additional content from the Group B Rally discussion that didn't quite fit in the main episode. Enjoy this Pit Stop minisode.
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
00:00 Technical Challenges and Overcoming Them
00:50 Origins and Evolution of Rallying
02:25 Favorite Rally Events and Stages
05:39 Classic Car Stories and Group B
08:45 Audi's Legacy in Motorsports
10:15 Building the Ultimate Rally Team
10:55 The Risk of Rally Drivers
11:16 Consistency vs. Speed
11:49 Choosing the Best Drivers
12:11 The Versatility of Rally Drivers
13:28 The Legacy of Group B
16:15 Modern Rally Legends
19:04 The Complexity of Rally Scoring
19:35 Best of the Bay Event
20:33 Conclusion and Call to Action
====================
The Motoring Podcast Network : Years of racing, wrenching and Motorsports experience brings together a top notch collection of knowledge, stories and information. #everyonehasastory #gtmbreakfix - motoringpodcast.net (https://www.motoringpodcast.net)
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Jon Summers (https://motoringpodcast.net/about/personalities/jon-summers/) is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets ...together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.
On this episode Jon Summers invites Crew Chief Eric from Break/Fix Podcast to debate "Who Was Best" in the 1980s Group B Rally. Was it: Audi, Lancia or Peugeot?
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00:00:00 Group B Rallying: A Technological Revolution
00:02:07 The Golden Era of Rally: Group B
00:03:01 The Role of Producers in Reality TV and Motorsport
00:03:56 Setting the Scene: Group B Rally Cars
00:06:19 The Evolution of Group B Rally Cars
00:11:06 The Impact of Group B on Motorsport
00:35:04 The Rise of Lancia and the Delta S4
00:43:29 Ford's Struggle and the RS200
00:47:21 The Legacy of Group B and Its Cars
00:49:33 Group B Disbandment and Nostalgia
00:50:15 The Influence of Virtual World on Group B
00:50:47 Personal Connection to Rallying
00:51:36 The Evolution of Rally Cars in Games
00:52:35 Analyzing Group B Cars' Performance
00:54:20 Best Car of the Group B Era
00:56:30 Legendary Drivers of Group B
00:57:13 Hannu Mikkola: The Comeback King
01:05:33 Michele Mouton: Breaking Barriers
01:12:33 Ari Vatanen: The Artistry of Drift
01:19:42 The Tragic End of Group B
01:32:22 Legacy and Modern Rallying
01:36:30 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Copyright Jon Summers, The Motoring Historian. This episode is part of our Motoring Podcast Network and has been republished with permission.Show More
On this episode Jon Summers invites Crew Chief Eric from Break/Fix Podcast to debate "Who Was Best" in the 1980s Group B Rally. Was it: Audi, Lancia or Peugeot?
===== (Oo---x---oO) =====
00:00:00 Group B Rallying: A Technological Revolution
00:02:07 The Golden Era of Rally: Group B
00:03:01 The Role of Producers in Reality TV and Motorsport
00:03:56 Setting the Scene: Group B Rally Cars
00:06:19 The Evolution of Group B Rally Cars
00:11:06 The Impact of Group B on Motorsport
00:35:04 The Rise of Lancia and the Delta S4
00:43:29 Ford's Struggle and the RS200
00:47:21 The Legacy of Group B and Its Cars
00:49:33 Group B Disbandment and Nostalgia
00:50:15 The Influence of Virtual World on Group B
00:50:47 Personal Connection to Rallying
00:51:36 The Evolution of Rally Cars in Games
00:52:35 Analyzing Group B Cars' Performance
00:54:20 Best Car of the Group B Era
00:56:30 Legendary Drivers of Group B
00:57:13 Hannu Mikkola: The Comeback King
01:05:33 Michele Mouton: Breaking Barriers
01:12:33 Ari Vatanen: The Artistry of Drift
01:19:42 The Tragic End of Group B
01:32:22 Legacy and Modern Rallying
01:36:30 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
====================
The Motoring Podcast Network : Years of racing, wrenching and Motorsports experience brings together a top notch collection of knowledge, stories and information. #everyonehasastory #gtmbreakfix - motoringpodcast.net (https://www.motoringpodcast.net)
• More Information: https://www.motoringpodcast.net/ (https://www.motoringpodcast.net/links)
• Become a VIP at: https://www.patreon.com/gtmotorsports
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Copyright Jon Summers, The Motoring Historian. This episode is part of our Motoring Podcast Network and has been republished with permission.Show More